[Resolved] Federation issues with lemmy.ml : lemmyworld

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 hours ago

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[-] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

FWIW the communities on walledgarden.xyz have been having federation issues to lemmy.ml for a few days as well.

Since we were/are working through some things with our host I didn't want to bother anyone from lemmy.ml about it, but it's a thing. AFAIK federation is otherwise working normally.

Good luck getting it figured out and resolved!

[-] AhismaMiasma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Lemm.ee is not loading at all, giving a 503 error. Possibly related?

[-] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I doubt it

[-] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago

this comment section is not a place to rant about other instances

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world -5 points 2 hours ago

Yeah a swept clean comment section looks way better....

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Do these things usually happen from time to time?

I've noticed some lemmy.ml communities looking surprisingly "dead" some days here and there but not thought much of it.

[-] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I wouldn't say usually, but they can happen from time to time for a variety of reasons.

It can be caused by overly aggressive WAF (web application firewall) configurations, proxy server misconfigurations, bugs in Lemmy and probably some more.

Proxy server misconfiguration is a common one we've seen other instances have issues with from time to time, especially when it works between Lemmy instances but e.g. Mastodon -> Lemmy not working properly, as the proxy configuration would only be specifically matching Lemmys behavior rather than spec-compliant requests.

Overly aggressive WAF configurations tend to usually being a result of instances being attacked/overloaded either by DDoS or aggressive AI service crawlers.

Usually, when there are no configuration changes on either side, issues like this don't just show up randomly.

In this case, while there was a change on the lemmy.ml side and we don't believe a change on our side fell into the time this started happening (we don't have the exact date for when the underlying issue started happening), while the behavior on the sending side might have changed with the Lemmy update, and other instances might just randomly not be affected. We currently believe that this is likely just exposing an issue on our end that already existed prior to changes on lemmy.ml, except the specific logic was previously not used.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

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[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 53 points 7 hours ago

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[-] Metz@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Unfortunately not entirely true. They have the largest Linux Community. To be precise, the big one.

ProgrammerHumor is there as well. The Open Source and Privacy communties are very bigs as well there. Completely dwaring their .world counterpart.

I'm not a fan of .ml either but you can't deny that they have this 3 parts (which very much represent the ideals behind lemmy) covered very well.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 31 points 5 hours ago

The fact of a community being big doesn't mean that it is good.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I'm out of the loop. is there some post or link you can send me about . ml being malicious

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago

https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

thanks. that's pretty clear cut

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah. If anything the situation has become worse since that time. I was banned from the entire instance for a frank if somewhat critical discussion of Chinese history, even as I was trying to avoid contemporary politics because I knew that would get me in trouble.

Anything other than fawning praise of the Chinese government is labeled racism and results in a ban.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 20 points 5 hours ago

It's a constant problem on the fediverse, if you search for things like lemmy.ml and CCP, propaganda, censoring etc it'll get you started.

Hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml are even worse.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Lol, flagged as inappropriate 🤣

[-] rikudou 37 points 7 hours ago

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[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago

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[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

Ah, I just today in the morning blocked Lemmy.ml. Seems to have been interesting timing :)

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I've never had a positive interaction with Lemmy.ml. For me it serves as a quarantine space, and a set of pre-tagged users I don't personally enjoy dealing with.

...and I'm not particularly averse to Marxists sentiments either, but they're certainly not good sales people, diplomats, or representative of their cause.

Which is just part of their reputation now. Having a bad experience with a .ml user seems to be part of the lemmy experience. It's kind of comical how consistent it seems.

That said, I'm sure there's good people on .ml.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, just avoid politics there and it's fine. We all know about their zeal so it's pointless to discuss it.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 24 points 6 hours ago

So it's your fault!

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

In which case, thank you.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

No one said it was a global variable. You can hardly blame the user for poor documentation.

[-] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Is there a reason people seem to not like .ml? I only joined because it said the instance was for FOSS enthusiasts

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 13 points 6 hours ago

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[-] uservoid1@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

Could it be an issue/compatibility with lemmy.ml running Lemmy v0.19.7 ?

[-] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago

I don't believe it is.

There weren't any network related changes from 0.19.6 to 0.19.7 and we haven't seen this behavior with any of the 0.19.6 instances yet.

The requests are visible with details (domain, path, headers) in Cloudflare, but they're not showing on our proxy server logs at all.

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago

I've read enough posts over at /r/sysadmin, it is always DNS.

[-] scsi@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago

[-] trespasser69@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

This probably should explain: https://lemmy.world/post/22166289

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

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[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Hmm interesting, so I guess even though I can see this hours old post, my comment should arrive in several days time. Hopefully I haven't responded to anyone on world with anything important recently.

[-] lwadmin@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

it arrived a few minutes ago, federation is working again (for now)

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

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