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White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so they have enough troops to battle Russia (apnews.com)

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

I admit I'm super surprised that the conscription age is 25.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

At 25 people actually have had chance to finish their education, maybe work a few years, experience real life outside school and be mostly formed individuals.

This is bad for attacking armys like the US and Russia, where brainwashing of teenagers makes it easier to get them to pull the trigger on defenseless people.

This is good for defending armys where people actually know what they fight for.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I would think it would be better for defending armies to have every able-bodied person fight the invaders. Less troops seems like a worse thing than more troops.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 weeks ago

It is massively fucked but... they probably should.

This war is ending in March or April one way or another. Europe/NATO have committed to supporting Ukraine. The US is almost guaranteed to actively betray them. And you can bet the EU and the like are going to be consolidating resources in fear of whatever else comes up.

So Ukraine needs to win NOW. It is probably already too late to meaningfully train those conscripts but having a military force that can act in that small window of late January is basically their only hope.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

Its actually kinda amazing they are doing so well with so limited a draft and how russia has had to call in north korea. I mean even if russia wins their method to to fuck up ukraine infrastructure so then at that point what have they won and they buried themselves in the process.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

At that rate you might as well let NATO serve the purpose it was created for. Even tho that will.probably spark a world war.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Honestly I'm all for it; then handing the keys to Trump lmao.

Or implement a No Fly Zone and fully commit NATO forces to air defense. See Putin squirm on what to do and how to react. Makes the Putin-Trump relationship tense. Trump backing down would be seen as weak. Putin wouldn't retaliate because he wouldn't risk losing his puppet.

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[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

That's rich. "Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps." tho even the scraps are gonna run dry soon. Fuck biden. He could have gone down in history as a truly great leader, got everything handed to him on a silver platter, but clearly, he wishes to walk in Chamberlin's shoes.

Honestly I'm ashamed, especially as a European, we should be doing so much more. We haven't learned anything from the great wars... We're experiencing a "what if Czechoslovakia fought back" scenario, we can end it right there in Ukraine. But no...

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

How about sending artillery shells instead? If the US is running out of artillery shells it should invest in some production capacity since it's critical for any large scale war, absolute no brainer.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

artillery shells buy you attack power.

Soldiers buy you military might.

once Trump gets into power they will no longer get military attack from the US and they won't have the time to drum up military might because Russia is doubling their attacks on Jan 6th.

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