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Matthew Livelsberger, the suspect behind the Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, was described as a “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret with 19 years of military service.

Livelsberger, who died in the blast, rented the Cybertruck in Colorado and filled it with explosives, injuring seven.

Authorities are investigating the incident’s symbolism, speculating it may have been a political statement due to its location and links to Trump and Elon Musk.

No clear motive has been established.

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[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

It's obviously too early to say the motive with 100% accuracy. But based on the timing of the event, and the Trump/Musk connection. It would seem like a Trump supporter who felt betrayed about the H1B visa thing.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Perhaps he was turning japanese as he shot himself.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago

I really think so.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago

Man, ex- trump fans really really want trump dead

Wonder why...

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago
[-] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

'big' Trump supporter

I mean.. let's be honest here, he did drive 12 hours through the night to serve Trump some freshly barbecued pig.

You don't cater like that unless you're a truly big fan.

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

Not very smart if he filled it with fireworks and gasoline.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 51 points 1 week ago

"Highly trained Green Beret" who doesn't know how to make a proper bomb.

If your only aim is that the explosion looks impressive then he made a perfect bomb.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

What would be the point of that? He shot himself in the truck prior to the explosion. If you're just going to do yourself in, what's the point of having a half-ass explosion in front of a hotel, too? He's been described as a "Trump-loving supersoldier patriot." It wouldn't be some false flag shit, because he was in the truck, that would have obviously not worked.

My best guess is that this "trump loving super patriot" didn't like elon and was trying to make a point on what elon was doing to trump. The best way they saw to do so was a flashy explosion out of a cyber truck infront of a trump property. Of course if they loved trump then they wouldn't actually care about maximizing damage to trumps building so they prioritized showiness over destruction. People also light themselves on fire in protest all the time. This was someone who wanted the same without the pain of burning to death so he shot himself before everything went up. If you were planning on killing yourself anyways why wouldn't you do it in the truck.

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[-] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would have at least tried to ram the hotel doors before killing myself and setting everything off. Even with the limited blast, it would have done more damage in an enclosed space.

The whole thing is confusing

I don't think the goal was to do damage.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As others have said: This was likely more about making a statement and getting attention than causing damage.

That said, it is well worth looking into the training of even "tier 1 operator" special forces. Unless their job is bomb defusal they aren't actually learning all that much. Here is some det cord and some plastic explosives. Here is a bunch of math to figure out how much you use of each and for liability purposes you'll need to get a passing grade on the written test. But the reality is that here are the common doors and walls you'll encounter and how much to use and in what shape. And if you are using this in a situation where you don't intend to murder everything on the other side? Get a professional to do it.

So it is very much possible that someone who was "an expert" on blowing out locks and even knocking holes in walls would have absolutely no idea how to make a proper car IED without having access to artillery shells and the like.


One way to think of it is that somebody could be the best F1 driver on the planet and even be able to articulate that they need the camber on their left front wing changed or whatever. But if you gave them a beat up 98 Camry that was misaligned and veered to the left? They would be just as lost as a kid who barely passed driver's ed.

[-] bilb@lem.monster 1 points 1 week ago

What message? I can discern nothing

[-] bilb@lem.monster 14 points 1 week ago

Putting gasoline in your EV is a rookie mistake

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

It's a Cyber Truck so that's what? Two gallons of gas and a pack of sparklers?

[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

One thing I'm finding interesting: we've got the NO attack and this Trump/CT attack, happening in close temporal proximity and both hurting/killing innocents, but I'm only seeing the former labelled by the media as a "terrorist" attack. Could it, maybe, possibly, have something to do with the NO attacker potentially having an Islamic background? In contrast, a US military member, and a Trump supporter in particular, could never be awarded the "terrorist" badge by the press, "bomber" is the most he could hope to earn it seems.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

I understand your sentiment, but I think it was the videos of him wanting to join ISIS and then ISIS flags in the truck with him.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html

[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Right, but I wasn't claiming that he wasn't seeking to spread terror for his cause, assuming that these are the facts. I'm remarking on the fact that the “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret wasn't immediately branded a terrorist by the media just like the NO guy was, despite committing an act that was, as far as I can tell, an act of terrorism. Is it only "terrorism" if you're motivated by some kind of religious belief, and specifically, some kind of Islamic group's belief?

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

More likely but not mandatory. They recently took their masks off and revealed it's really about fucking with the money.

[-] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago

I think they're abbreviating New Orleans

[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Correct, it's a common abbreviation used in the States. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I mean you can't help but think it is something to do with Elon Musk and the h1b1 Visa issue.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

A veteran that supported him thinking he was "for the troops" getting fucked over by the military for something (like the VA not treating PTSD) could be a reason.

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[-] bilb@lem.monster 6 points 1 week ago

He wasn't so big, I'm bigger than him

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
over.

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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

“Bigly”

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Symbolism police.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So is this a FAFO situation or...?

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