I tried Kbin, but I don't know why it just never clicked with me. I kind of like the barebones lemmy UI.

Also, the instance I'm on has an "old.reddit" style page that is really nice when I'm on PC.

I preferred the kbin ui on pc originally but the phone apps and the release of “old reddit” style ui for lemmy got me to switch

I personally recommend https://a.lemmy.world if you're going to use an alternative frontend.

Loved Kbin, but yeah the slow development made me come back to lemmy as well.

I started on kbin myself. It was mostly a population consideration, though I did like the downvote accounting. Community moderation is one thing Tildes does right, and that was a step in that direction.

I ultimately bailed when even the big magazines weren't being moderated anymore (spam everywhere).

Love to see Photon love! (https://p.lemmy.world is using the Photon UI)

I started in Kbin. I think that the activity level was smaller in there, which made me swap. Another reason was that Lemmy feels nicer to use (I like its looks more and I found a neat app on the phone to use it. Didn't find an app for Kbin).

Welcome back!

If you're not ready to leave yet mbin fork that integrates community fixes faster. Fedia switched to it.

Yes. The constant logouts were bad - a little on desktop but constantly on mobile, and needing to refresh/login spam 4x to get in sometimes. After awhile growth and activity also looked to be stalling out. I realized a bunch more communities I was missing out on were from Lemmy and I needed to make an account to fully interact.

When I found old.lemmy.world it was game over. I don't think I'll go back to my kbin account much anymore.

Wow. Photon UI looks really nice. It's a lot like Sync

Kbin kept logging me out. At some point, it got so annoying, I deleted my bookmark.

Wrt fediverse, you can keep using all of them at the same time. How cool is that!

Relevant post: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/451896/Is-Kbin-dying-I-wanted-to-address-the-deleted-thread, attempting to explain why contributions weren't being merged in and deployed.

Posts by Ernst since mention lots of bots and ads, and some outright DDOS.

The latest word: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/544021/So-what-s-the-status-on-the-update-edit-ernest-responded.

TLDR: Ernst has had a lot of unexpected personal issues to deal with, had to take on a temporary job, and has not been able to give full dedication to this project. What efforts were originally planned - e.g. an official API - seemed to instead have gotten redirected against maintenance vs. outside attacks rather than improvements to the underlying codebase. Back when he was not keeping up with contributors' proffered changes, he even planned to step down if he could not catch up, for which he gave himself a 1-month deadline, but he seems to have decided that he has met the basic minimum to not do that.

Looking forward, several months from now Kbin may be significantly better. Or barely better. Or not at all, who knows. But right now it is what it is, which is far behind Lemmy in terms of pure software features at least. I think Kbin's main selling point was that it was not built off of the original Lemmy contributors, and it does have a very nice interface (sort of, on desktop at least). Not that it matters: account migration doesn't exist on the Fediverse - even on Lemmy, right? - so those of us who migrated and asked all of our friends to do likewise are kinda stuck with our initial choices, good or bad, unless we make a clean break from our entire history.

Note I have nothing to do with Kbin, I just wanted to offer those helpful resources if you want to read them. I am glad that you found something that works well for you. I halfway wonder if I should make an alt somewhere even if just to more readily read posts from a mobile, b/c the mobile browser experience for Kbin is horrible (reading is mostly fine, but commenting is absolutely horrendous).

Try mbin first 😉

Ernest, the main developer of Kbin, has given an explanation of what has happened: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/544021/So-what-s-the-status-on-the-update-edit-ernest-responded#entry-comment-3006120

I moved to KBIN, because Lemmy's namesake owned the largest personal collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world for years leading up until his death. Lemmy was an entire piece of shit human being. Fuck Lemmy.

KBIN has had it's issues, most noticeably, I haven't been able to access any of my notifications for about 3 months now at all and every time I click on the notifications number to check it throws up the "were working on it" error page, attempts to block users from certain instances doesn't work and throws up the error "we're working on it page", and you can't seem to block entire instances from KBIN without it seemingly unrelatedly weirdly losing the ability to see comments in disparate random posts (all known issues) ........ other than that I'm perfectly happy on KBIN