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Wondering which forks Lemmings are using. With LibreWolf I get a lot of captchas. Mercury last release, v.129.0.2 , is from 2024?

Or would just using a hardening file like Betterfox be the best option? I am on Ubuntu....

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Vanilla Firefox. I trust Mozilla more than I trust the devopers of any fork.

[–] guava_tropic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah same. I like Floorp, but regular Firefox is where it's at.

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't. They're really pushing for AI right now. We need a good fork.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That does not affect my opinion of Mozilla one bit. If anything, I applaud them for integrating AI into the browser. Saves me the trouble of having to type in a URL and login to a website to access an AI; I can just hit Ctrl+Alt+X now.

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have a keyboard shortcut to get water after it's all depleted because AI ?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago
[–] voracread@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Zen Browser is rather decent.

[–] camilobotero@feddit.dk 7 points 1 month ago

I was coming to comment about Zen Browser. It is Firefox with better UI.

[–] Shalaska@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Agreed, I started using it a few months back and it quickly replaced the base Firefox for me.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm using plain old Firefox, mostly because I don't know enough which forks are available as well as their tldr's.

Sidenote: Please tell me there's a (good) project named Firefork.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Same, mainly because nightly is a vanilla-firefox-only thing apparently

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Same here on vanilla firefox. When you hear Chrome so many forks like brave, opera and ungoogled come to mind.

Brave out of the box is one of the best in privacy. But at the end of the day it's still chromium :p

Besides LibreWolf not much talk of others. But Floorp and Zen are looking nice

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've switched from librewolf to mullvad browser, it is tor browser minus the tor network.

In other words it makes all its users have the same fingerprint so that they can blend together. This is much more effective at detetring tracking than simply hiding or randomizing details like librewolf does.

In this thread the arkenfox Dev goes as far to say "PS: long term I am hoping we can retire arkenfox (I can't speak for LW) and just use MB - but they're just a little too divergent for now"

https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1

Other options (besides tor browser) are librewolf or Arkenfox, no other firefox forks are reputable from a security/privacy perspective

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How are the captchas on MB? It's peak in privacy terms. Have never daily drived it enough to see how it impacts web usability.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 1 points 4 weeks ago

That mostly depends on your IP reputation, don't think the browser itself is going to affect it much

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zen has been pretty nice, otherwise just Firefox.

[–] clubb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This. For 99% of people, firefox is fine. At least zen offers a new interface.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the forks with privacy tweaks often are too much hassle to use with sites not working right or getting a lot of captchas. Firefox already has cookie isolation and stuff like that which is good enough for me.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Vanilla FF here. LibreWolf was great but too many websites broke under it for some reason and didn't with vanilla FF even with all the privacy settings turned to 11.

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

I use the vanilla FF but with this theme applied:
https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firefox with containers, uBlock Origin, and that extension from the EFF, privacy something. Forks would need to be from someone very trustworthy to gain the same trust Mozilla has earned from me over many years.

[–] stm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what are containers in firefox ?

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Mozilla’s Multi-Account Containers extension.

It lets you define several cookie+local storage spaces, each isolated from the rest, and from private browsing. This way you can open random sites in the Default container, work sites in the “Evil Corp.” container, Furry fanfic sites in the “Guilty pleasures” container, etc.

With a container-aware cookie manager extension, you can even clear a whole container without affecting the rest.

I'm no security expert, but I feel like forks are gonna have delays in updates, so for security, you should always get as close to the source as possible.

Firefox is open source and shouldn't be tracking you anyways.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Firefox forks are nothing but Firefox with a user.js file added to it. Just use Vanilla Firefox with a user.js.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm using Firefox, I heard it was the biggest fork of Firefox.

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

Damn son, Firefoxception

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think floorp looks interesting, but I haven't moved to it yet.

All I want is something that does a sidebar as well as Vivaldi. Why is a sidebar so difficult?

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think Zen browser is de Vivaldi of Firefox forks. Looks pretty clean too.

Floorp also looks promising. I'll have to try both

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I use Firefox which is a Floorp fork... noticeble faster than vanilla FF

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I use Floorp (mostly because vertical tabs and the customization) with Add Water Flatpak that makes it fit in with the rest of my GTK apps.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Zen browser

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firedragon which is a fork of Floorp... love it

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that the Garuda fork? My fav arch distro, very user friendly even more so than endeavour

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Try using Chameleon extension to spoof the headers to look like vanilla FF on Windows.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago

I use libre wolf . It's just perfect point to not be a border . For people complaining about it breaking stuff or saying is just a user.js , read the documentation

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I use Floorp for the sleeping tabs