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[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 247 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Apparent? Shut the fuck up.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 92 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Throwing in the word “apparent” is cowardly, but it’s also a lot cheaper than being sued for libel by a fucking billionaire.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 38 points 3 weeks ago

Nah. Getting sued for libel is what these outlets should be absolutely proud to have sent their way. That's literally a news story in itself. It would also means he'd actually have to defend it instead of posting Nazi puns on Twitter.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In this case I think the point is to be on the nose about how fucking ridiculous it is - just from this article:

Steve Bannon made a gesture that is identical to a Nazi salute

Bannon made the gesture — extending his arm, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest, which is also what Nazi salutes look like

the gesture was also identical to one made by billionaire Elon Musk

extended his arm straight out, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest. Which, whatever the billionaire’s intention, just happens to be precisely how a Nazi salute is performed.

Musk repeated the gesture. Here’s how that looked.

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oxford's top definition for Apparent is "clearly visible or understood; obvious"

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 186 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd like to go back to a simpler time. A time when nazis got shot in the fucking face.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

You can help return to that time today!

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Join your local SRA or PSL. We need more comrades. Us Socialist have the top score for killing Nazis and it's not even fucking close.

Edit: Socialist Rifle Association. Party for Socialism and Liberation.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 169 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Judge for yourselves ... pretty blatant Nazi salute if I've ever seen one. Short and quick but it was a plainly obvious gesture.

1930s German Nazis would have laughed at it for being so pitiful and weak but it was there from what I saw.

https://www.youtube.com/live/0BN-62AQT4Q?t=29801s

If the linked time doesn't work ... scroll through to the end of his 15 minute speech at 8:16:32

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't even think of a way that this could be given some veil of innocence either. The "my heart goes out to you" thing was always bullshit, but it was an attempt at plausible deniability. I don't think even that could be done here

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 126 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

In times past, anyone doing anything like that around the president would have put the president on the fast track to impeachment.

Today, this will just slide, and we'll have another piece of outrageous news tomorrow that nobody will be outraged about for more than 10 minutes. Different values today I guess...

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Impeachment in the US seems to be meaningless too, though

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's because impeachment is a partisan process. If the Republicans had an ounce of integrity (or even self-preservation) they would have joined the Democrats in voting to convict when Trump was impeached multiple times previously.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 90 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So at this point, the leaders of both major political wings of MAGA have openly done the fascist salute.

Maga America needs to be denazified.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

MAGA Americans need to cease to exist.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 89 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Let me guess the excuse: he also has autism and autistic people just can't help doing Nazi salutes all the time.

You know how you keep seeing autistic people give Nazi salutes?

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

I'm autistic and I can't stop nazi saluting it's scaring my kids neighbors and friends send help

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's true, it was programmed into us by our creator Hans Asperger.

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[–] Superheavy@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

I shall now remind the world that the USA didn't care all that much about nazis in WW2 until it got attacked by Japan in Pearl Harbor and felt the need to react.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

Bullshit. We supported Europe similarly to how we've been supporting Ukraine.

We didn't have boots on the ground, but we did everything short of that. It's why Pearl Harbor happened.

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not another accidental Nazi salute! These clumsy Nazis keep accidentally throwing that Nazi salute around completely by mistake!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t you hate it when you accidentally do the Nazi salute when you’re a nazi?

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 72 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I posted it on the thread that was removed, but here it is again, video proof:

https://imgur.com/a/FIuEqCr

Timestamped link on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/live/0BN-62AQT4Q?t=29797

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

He wasn't quite as confident with doing it as musk.

Thats kinda funny.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

He looked very anxious doing it, tbh. Pathetic. Like a child muttering a swear under their breath before nervously scanning the room to see if anyone heard.

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[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The real headline should be "CPAC audience cheers Bannon's Nazi salute", because they totally did, and it leaves no doubt that CPAC is full of Nazis.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Apparent"

Chickenshit Nazi enablers.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

It's almost like the capitalist media has completely normalized and apologized for fascism.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And even when reporting on it they link to the neo-Nazi site X for the video.

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[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Arm up, folks. Nazis don't go away peacefully.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

And every conservative in America is silent.

Silence is complicity.

No more excuses. No more feigned ignorance.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I honestly think the feud with Elon is fueled by jealousy to be Trumps Nazi.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I all invite them to come to germany and do it :)

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 46 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Germany is literally right on the edge of their own fascist issues right now. The symbolism may not be as directly 1to1 as America. But the outcomes are building up to be the same. Germans learned all the wrong lessons from their past and now the "never again" seems to be "well, again, but only to Muslims this time. We promise it stops there"

How's that song go? "Tell them that the Nazis never really went away". They weren't kidding.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

it's worse than that, we shift all the guilt about antisemitism and nazism onto muslims, so that they're perceived as the actual nazis and we're innocent happy fellows who are bestest of friends with The Jews™ who just happen to all support and live in israel and no other jewish opinion or existence is allowed or acknowledged. the palestinian genocide really is a denazification, israel is just cleaning up little hitler babies with daily bomb and drone strikes.

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[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

This was in the same speech where he said that the Holy Spirit was working through Trump to do all of this, and that Trump should have a third term and beyond.

It's becoming obvious that we should be treating Trumpism as a religious cult, not just a political movement.

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[–] ThaMunsta@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Most people have muscle memory of like normal wave or maybe a clenched fist pump for "fight fight fight" right? It's not supposed to be difficult to avoid nazi saluting. Like I've never ALMOST sieg heil'd, you know? fuck sakes

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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

America has a nazi problem and there is only one solution to a nazi problem

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's not exactly the same as Musk's (doesn't thump his heart first) -- which is probably the point. Trying to sneak in more completely implausible "plausible deniability." Nobody's fooled. It looks like a duck, it's a duck.

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 36 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Fuck me, I'm scared for my friends in the States

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good. I want more of them to do it. Let's get past the phase where people still try to rationalize ways in which it's not what it literally is.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Well yeah, but he's not a cool Nazi: he looks like he sleeps in the street while the South African one is a kajillionaire who makes space rockets and electric cars.

Nobody likes an uncool Nazi.

Also, here's the actual source of the article instead of a link to an aggregator:

https://www.thewrap.com/steve-bannon-gives-apparent-nazi-salute-at-cpac-elon-musk/

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

You'd think it would be easy to avoid doing this, but watch as the MAGA scum come out of the woodwork to rush to the defense of another guy who totally didn't mean it, honest.

[–] h_nt3r@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I cannot wait for these monsters to get their faces kicked in. Fuck these fascists!

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