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No evidence found linking synagogue president's fatal stabbing to antisemitism, Detroit police chief says (www.nbcnews.com)
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Detroit police said Sunday that they have found no evidence that indicates the fatal stabbing of a Detroit synagogue president this weekend was linked to antisemitism.

Police continue to investigate the death of Samantha Woll, 40, who was found stabbed outside her home Saturday morning, Detroit Police Chief James E. White said in a statement Sunday.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As I've argued before: She was stabbed multiple times inside her home, in a moderately densely populated area that seems like it would have lots of Ring doorbells.

If it was an attack on Jews in general, why didn't they target an area with multiple victims? If it was a targeted attack on her, why not in a place with less people, less potential surveillance, and a better weapon? This reads more like a spur of the moment attack, a crime of passion.

It's possible that the passion was Why are you saying that Hamas' actions weren't entirely justified?!. But -- most women are killed by men that they know, and the majority of the killers are current or former partners of the victim.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The most important thing to remember is that the investigation is still ongoing and until it's concluded we're all just speculating.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Don't spoil our fun!

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well my goal is to temper not spoil

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Could easily be a targeted attack seeing as she was the leader of a synagogue.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Cops said she was attacked inside her home. With the current hostilities, she's unlikely to invite a stranger inside. And again, the area is moderately densely populated, likely has a bunch of Ring doorbells, and they used a knife? If you were trying to kill someone, does that sound like the conditions you would choose to do it in?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Could have been a "friend" or acquaintance.

Guns for show, knives for a pro.

[-] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they were murdered by a felon 😆 felons can't have guns... /s

Just speculation... Gumption.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Watch the video segment on the article till the end "no signs of forced entry or defensive wounds." found a large Israeli flag that appeared to be untouched. This was, as others have said, someone they trusted and that they knew. And in my opinion, it's weird that some people seemingly want it to be otherwise.

If it's not a targeted religious attack doesn't that at least put some kind of silver lining to an otherwise heartbreaking and unthinkable loss?

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

I dunno if I'd call that a silver lining. The alternative to religious violence is likely the ongoing issue of women being murdered by men who once loved them in some way. Less of an immediate indicator of a dangerous form of violence and more another body to add to a tragedy so common we consider it just normal day to day life.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was sort of struggling how to make anything positive out of something that is horrible regardless. Silver lining doesn't really work the best but I struggled how to phrase it otherwise. Violence against women and the hardship they face truly is all too common, normalized, under prosecuted and a silent killer. There's a real mental health crisis here in this country and the continual lack of funding for preventative resources is to blame for so much of that suffering.

I apologize profusely if it felt like my wording was aimed at lessening her loss and assure you that in no way had I intended it to do so.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

No worries. I didn't see this as callousness and was simply providing the perspective that the likely alternative also says a lot of bad things about the dangers to a woman in America but we're just more used to it. A Jewish woman in America is probably currently in more danger due to being a woman than being Jewish, and that's not saying she experiences no increased danger from being Jewish.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe someone just took the opportunity of the war to kill her and get away with it. Violence against women is rising every day.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not following here... Someone thought that since everyone is busy, focused on a war halfway around the world that now is the perfect opportunity to commit that woman murder they've been tinkering around with doing some day? Is this a whoosh moment? Am I being whooshed?

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is obviously an ongoing investigation and the facts may change rapidly.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but come on.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

But come on, she's a woman. Statistically, it's a man in her close circle.

[-] money_loo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

100% correct and the downvoters can either read some newspapers or cope more.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, come on.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's still Detroit, it's better than a decade ago, but it's not exactly safe all the time.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ok ok ok, i know there's all this, like, pft, evidence and stuff, but. Hear me out:

Come on

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

What evidence?

[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

She will be very relieved to hear that

[-] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what is sadder, a woman dying on the hands of a man she probably knows, or a woman dying because of bigotry and discrimination...

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