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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 96 points 2 months ago (4 children)

One can only hope that without the US, Ukraine can still hold out long enough for Russia to implode. One must unfortunately further hope that the US doesn't start helping Russia e.g by undoing sanctions or even sending over money and troops.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 66 points 2 months ago (4 children)

the day my country starts helping russia destroy Ukraine is coming soon, i fear. all this has been prelude to us, softening us up for the concept. wearing us out until we no longer have the energy to stand up and fight for what is right. our treatment of our ally will be a permanent bloodstain in the tapestry of history, and our turn towards russia a permanent singe.

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If your country starts supporting Russia, the whole fucking world is going to be very puzzled if you’re not rioting by that point.

Maybe take some lessons from the people who gave you the Statue of Liberty.

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[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

Just a reminder that if you're conscripted to fight on behalf of whatever stupid war the US is going to be initiating, sabotaging your troop transport on the way over is potentially a moral decision.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump wasn't joking about gambling with ww3 unfortunately. He indeed has the cards but is stupid enough to play it wrong.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

He inherited a straight flush but threw it all away to play an 8 high card hand.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It's already started. Trump is emboldening Putin with his attempt at brokering a peace deal and making concessions from the start without involving Ukraine. His threats to encourage Russia to attack NATO countries.

He's doing Putin's political dirty work.

The US could likely have a second civil war because of Trump aligning with Putin.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The sad part is knowing millions of American troglodytes would love to die on behalf of Putin and Trump.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

They're so weird

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[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Through the whole of 2024 the Russia was advancing faster than anyone expected.

During that year, they managed to occupy 0.7 % of Ukraine's territory. Which basically rounds to zero.

the Russia now works mainly without military vehicles. Even if there was a complete collapse of the Ukrainian front, the Russia would be less able to exploit it than they were able to advance in northern parts of Ukraine in spring 2022. I'd say that the best the Russia can do is to advance about ten times as much as in 2024. That is, they could maybe occupy another 7% of Ukraine's territory. USA can of course try helping by lifting the sanctions, but EU won't coΓΆperate with that.

If USA blocks Ukraine from getting air defence missiles, the Ukrainian electricity distribution will be in deep trouble. Not the end of the world right now, when it's already spring in Ukraine, but the next winter might get seriously bad even if the Russia has already lost by that point.

If the EU stays supporting Ukraine, it won't lose before the Russia does. But it might be in for its most painful year in this war 😒

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If we exclude number of nukes, because if they become the main factor of a war everyone loses, Europe (EU+UK) has more active military... everything... than Russia and China. In most metrics Europe surpasses the US, and if we include Ukraine then it surpasses the US in everything except spending.

The only thing holding Europe back is Europe. If our politicians get their shit together and put their national egos aside for a bit, then the only thing we need from the US is for them to get the fuck out of Europe.

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

He shouldn't thank anyone because he doesn't need to.

His country is carrying a whole continent on their shoulders. We should thank Ukraine. We are in deep debt to them.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't have to, but it's a kind gesture and is good for publicity.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

He's working tirelessly for every bullet and is thankful for every one.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

You're not wrong by any means, but this show of good faith is how he garners the support he needs to continue being our Frontline. I wish they didn't have to be, but I'm glad they have such a dedicated and competent leader to guide them through this

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

This is just perfect levels of trolling after Vance accused him of not being grateful

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Slava Ukraini...

If Trump tried to make all his "deals" like the one yesterday, it's no wonder that he failed so often.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

гСроям слава

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 months ago

America: The war should have ended in 3 days.

Zelensky: You sound like Russian propaganda.

America: How dare you! We used the American translation!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Poor Donald Tusk. Having to have a name so close to the more (in)famous leader who seems to be your almost exact evil counterpart.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry Trump is such a shit bag.

[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians are bearing the weight in the frontline of the war between Democracy and Autocracy. They have my sword!

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

I'm sure they'll make good use of it, and return when they're finished - if possible.

(and my axe, too.)

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that will save Ukraine!

Why do people make these unhelpful comments? He's stuck on X because that's where all the world leaders are. Zelensky is in no position to spearhead a move away from it while his country is being invaded

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking the same earlier, but you can be sure that if there is a targeted campaign against Zelensky, Musk will tank his engagement, just as he cut off Starlink to Ukrainian military. Leaving X-crement is not purely aesthetic, it is a good safeguard

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Seriously! On the platform of a traitorous piece of shit half responsible for this mess...

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. Only thing here bothers me that why so many state reps still are on this shit platform.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Zelensky has no choice but to play ball on Twitter. If that’s where other world leaders are, that’s where he must be too.

Now for the rest of us…yeah get off Twitter.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How long before Musk starts kicking those leaders off because they don't have a Trumpian attitude? And of course most of the residents of those countries will follow their leaders to a new platform, making twitter completely irrelevant.

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[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Turns out a number of the good reps are on Bluesky. Yesterday I even found Tim Walz has an account there and I've seen many from other states tagged in comments.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Move to Bluesky.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago

Classic Friedrich Merz: "We must never confuse aggressor and victim in this terrible war", he says. And then invites over Netanyahu.

He is a terrible person.

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And they all are saying that on X! Oh the irony...

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

painful ain't it?

Goes to show the stickiness of social networks imo, I doubt any of them have even heard of bluesky

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

lol, see that Vance? You a lil removed.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope Friedrich Merz will not flip flop on that. You can't rely on the guy.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Hey, that's not fair. Bring him a little black suitcase now and then and you'll find you can rely on him without any worries.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

undiscernible blurping from the likes of Vance

Zee: Thanks, I guess? So much for the global superpower.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wonder if anyone else has ever felt this feeling in history, if this is what citizens of Coruscant in Star Wars felt when the Death Star blew up, or citizens of the Fire Nation when Aang started kicking ass...

Knowledge that the powers that control where you live are failing, and satisfaction because you realize that's a GOOD thing

There needs to be a word for this Anti-Patriotism

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