Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)
For maps I'd also like to add Organic Maps, OsmAnd and Magic Earth.
this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2025
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especially Organic Maps, it's got the most user-friendly UI out of the three
Thank you! We already had Organic Maps in the database but I will add OsmAnd and Magic Earth now.
Calling Peertube a Youtube alternative is just wrong. It is an alternative in theory but it probably doesn't even have a milionth of the content that Youtube has.
That's the problem with "the winner takes it all" on the Internet. Which European alternative would you suggest instead?
There is no real YouTube alternative, unfortunately. The content makes a video platform great. No alternative video platform is anywhere close to YouTube in content diversity.
It's unfortunately a very different situation to most other things. For example you can "simply" convince your circle of friends to use Threema. Try convincing your favorite Youtubers to post on any alternative platform and see how far you get.
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I'm not saying PeerTube is bad, but if I was a regular person that wanted an alternative to YouTube, going to PeerTube would be an annoying experience that will probably turn me off from it. You have to let people come with the appropriate expectations.
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Missing out the big one here - Spotify is also European fyi.
I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps' inauguration. That's why it was removed.
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There is only one clear winner for me.
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We learn and iterate. Thanks for the feedback! We still list Spotify in the database but plan to include quality factors in the (probably not so near) future as well to better differentiate between "European address" and "European commitment".
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but also platforms right wingers that had an impact on influencing our election. i get i shouldn't be the one guiding boycotts of my own nation's products, i'm just saying spotify has been antihelpful when it comes to the creation of this situation
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Where's Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I'd say it can hardly be branded 'from' anywhere unless you're talking about servers location but then...
Signal is still an american non-profit. The HQ is in US and everybody in the board if directors is american.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Signal is centralised, and as such the location of the service operator matters a lot.
Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.
That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.
Exactly my problem why I'm not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.
Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use
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Joinpeertube.org doesn’t have the best onboarding, but take a look at the pinned post at !peertube@lemmy.wtf for a few good servers to choose from.
If it has to be explained in a post on another site then it’s guaranteed to lose.
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Unfortunately, the PeerTube community is inactive and small. There are basically no interesting videos at all.
!peertube@lemmy.wtf is quite active and tries to highlight interesting content.
Thanks, I will try it out.
Sorry but 2 posts in the last week can hardly be considered quite active.
SepiaSeach will search a large number of instances for content. Not a bad start for peertube. But I do agree that it's hard to find good content there.
Yep, as it doesn't have a monetization incentive it will be never that appealing. There should be a way for authors to earn money.
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This is missing Spotify and TomTom unless I am missing something
Thanks for the feedback. It is not supposed to be a complete list. It's a start. You can find more alternatives in our database: https://buy-european.net/
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It's pretty telling that, as a European, I've literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.
Some of these aren't European so I wouldn't feel too bad. PixelFed is American, for example.
Edit: PixelFed is Canadian
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It tells more about you. Deezer, Soundcloud, DeepL and Bolt are pretty popular globally.
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Organic Maps ftw.
As a musician, I don't like SoundCloud. The free upload limit is way too small, their compression is not great and every time you do anything they try to sell you one of their subscriptions, which also cost way too much imo.
If other musicians didn't use it as much I would have already thrown it out long ago.
Last time I checked ecosia gets it's search queries from Bing, just a heads up. Other than that I'd say it's really solid.
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One thing that list shows me is that Google are incredibly good at what they do, and have a finger in almost every pie imaginable.
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Isn't mapy.cz just an OSM wrapper, but proprietary?
Protonmail is missing.
Due to negative feedback in version 1.0 I removed it from the infographic. You can still find it in the database itself.
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if you're considering Qobuz, it's amazing, and if you're a student it's quite affordable with their student plan.
unrelated tool, for more technical folks <3