Syrian forces in deadly clashes with Assad-linked fighters in Latakia : worldnews

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They're not Assad linked. They're fighting against the almost daily extra judicial murders and violence against the alawite minority in the coast.

Assad is gone.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The bias in the reporting is very telling.

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

They want to justify killing them more. Depressing.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and it is wilder by the day. However, there appears to be organization in the case of Latakia and Tartous.

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Being organized doesn't justify the falsehoods in the reporting. They've been getting murdered for 3 months now, surely they had enough time to organize.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is good that they are getting organized and fighting the HTS terrorists. And yeah, you are right about the reporting and how western news media group every dissident into the same basket. However, if we go beyond the news, it is good that people are fighting back against the fascists HTS. Also not sure if you also seen this letter:

Statement by the 'Military Council for the Liberation of Syria'

The Military Council for the Liberation of Syria is hereby established, following months of injustice, sectarian violence, looting, oppression and the seizure of Syrian land by external aggressors.

The Military Council for the Liberation of Syria has the following goals:

Liberating all Syrian territory from occupiers and terrorist forces.

Overthrowing the HTS regime and 'dismantling its oppressive sectarian apparatus'.

Protecting the lives and properties of all Syrians.

Rebuilding state institutions on national and democratic foundations.

Preparing for the return of refugees.

Establishing a unified, sovereign state consisting of all sects and ethnicities.

Source -> https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/16116

[+] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth -22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Very weird how they pulled the former head of air-force intelligence out of these groups then. I would say it's an isolated case if this didn't happen every time they combed the area after an ambush. Will you still think the same of these fighters when Suhail Al-Hassan is caught among their ranks and no suspicions are left?

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're speaking about Ibrahim houija. That guy was head of air force intelligence in the 80's and 90's. Do research before believing propaganda.

[+] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth -9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was a captain in the 70's (1987 is when he became head of air-force intelligence) to 2002 and he's accused of carrying out assassinations in Syria and Lebanon, including assassinating the Lebanese PFP leader, Kamal Junblat. The Air-force intelligence also partook in the Hama massacre of 1982.

I am hoping that his trial will be fair and that no harm will befall him unless he's actually convicted.

There are others who were part of the fourth division specifically, currently hiding or fighting in Lattakia.

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for pasting excerpts from Wikipedia and confirming what I said, but what exactly is your point now? How does this relate to this group being an assadist group and not alawites putting an end to the daily murders of their people?

I would appreciate if you lead with your point / argument then justify it.

[+] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth -10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not one letter of what I "pasted" is from Wikipedia. In fact there's not an article about this guy.

Anyways my point here is that pro-Assad forces are fighting in Syria and while I don't know what the people of the Sahel think of the government, it doesn't seem like this is just them suddenly deciding to stop the "extra judicial murders" which I am sure you have plenty of proof for.

This is the result of outside influence and is relying on criminals who either do this or get dragged to court is my point. I am not saying there are no Alawites who are so dissatisfied by the new government that they'd join such movements, but there wouldn't be enough of them to cause this much trouble without some outside help.

[–] maysaloon@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What does pro-Assad mean? Are they coordinating with him? They wanna put him back in power? What's your proof?

Or you mean they simply like him?

it doesn't seem like this is just them suddenly deciding to stop the "extra judicial murders"

It's not sudden. This isn't the first act of resistance, but this is the most organized we've seen. They have been complaining for months about these killings.

There's certainly enough alawites armed or military trained to do this. They're more military trained than any other group ever since the French occupation days.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good God your cruelty and hatred knows no bounds does it?

There are videos emerging of people's homes being invaded purely bc they are Alawites. There are videos of children being shot in the fucking face and bodies being piled up by the regime.

How long are you people going to deny that jolani is a monster? How many of those being executed in the streets are actually just people fighting to survive against a vile islamist terror regime and not part of some assad conspiracy?

How long are you and your terror sympathizing cult followers going to keep up this "assadist insurrection" narrative?

[+] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth -6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are videos emerging of people's homes being invaded purely bc they are Alawites. There are videos of children being shot in the fucking face and bodies being piled up by the regime.

I know there were cases of sectarian attacks against Alawites and those happened after the armed groups attacked general security forces there and didn't come out of nowhere (that doesn't justify them). There's still so much hatred between Sunnis and Alawites, and when the attacks happened people from all around Syria mobilized to help the army. Many of them saw that as an opportunity to take revenge. The government stopped these mobilizations to majority Alawite areas, but their response was very late.

There are claims of security forces committing crimes and uploading videos of them, I have no doubt that such things could've happened, but all I've found is pictures of people who were allegedly executed. When this operation started a member of the army was arrested for sectarian chants and the government has promised to follow up on all the crimes committed during the operation.

How long are you people going to deny that jolani is a monster? How many of those being executed in the streets are actually just people fighting to survive against a vile islamist terror regime and not part of some assad conspiracy?

I am not denying anything. Jolani headed terrorist group after terrorist group and his forces committed many crimes before their sudden rebrand. Since they overthrew Bashar their statements and actions have been moderate and they don't seem to be targeting or discriminating against any sects. A timeline for a new government and presidential elections give you some hope, but I may just be very delusional.

How long are you and your terror sympathizing cult followers going to keep up this "assadist insurrection" narrative?

Until these ambushes and attacks stop being headed by the previous regime's officers (Who still boast about their crimes) and supported and instigated by Iran.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are claims of security forces committing crimes and uploading videos of them

These aren't claims, they're on twitter for everyone to see.

https://xcancel.com/AryJeay/status/1898367639602545128#m

Go through that user's entire posts and retweets and you'll see that they're not just fucking "claims" you worthless jihadi.

I know that all you want is to exterminate Christians, Alawites, Kurds, Druze, and literally any Muslim that never wanted your sharia shit hole sect in charge of Syria.

You probably live in the west, living under secularism where your rights and existence are defended. You are such a hypocrite. For some reason Muslims like you feel so ready to support fucking caliphates in the middle East but never want to live in the hellholes you advocate for. Not all or even most Muslims, but a significant minority as I've seen since these fascists have taken power.

If you're going to advocate and make up apologetics for religious fascism, then you should at least have the decency to leave whatever western state you're posting this nonsense from.

Can you imagine the burden whatever secular western state keeping your backwards ass is bearing? Why don't you go live in Syria, after all I'm sure jolani is going to solve this in no time and stop the evil Iranians causing Christians and Alawites to be fucking executed in the streets with their children!

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth -2 points 1 week ago

These aren't claims, they're on twitter for everyone to see.

Yeah, those are clear, I didn't deny that this could've happened, I understand there's still so much hatred between Sunnis and Alawites. I was following the links on the r/syria subreddit and most of the content was removed, the ones that weren't are just pictures of piled up bodies or straight up unrelated pictures (from Gaza, Ba'thist Syria, random people with made up stories).

I know that all you want is to exterminate Christians, Alawites, Kurds, Druze, and literally any Muslim that never wanted your sharia shit hole sect in charge of Syria.

In your typical Caliphate with Sharia law I'd probably have multiple sentences of stoning to death.

You probably live in the west

No.

living under secularism where your rights and existence are defended

🤣

You are such a hypocrite. For some reason Muslims like you feel so ready to support fucking caliphates in the middle East but never want to live in the hellholes you advocate for

I am gonna be living in the "hellhole" and I didn't advocate for this, unless advocating for the fall of the regime is what you're hinting at.

If you're going to advocate and make up apologetics for religious fascism, then you should at least have the decency to leave whatever western state you're posting this nonsense from.

Your guesses are wrong, and I am gonna be living in Syria even with my home flattened and the areas around it scattered with mines.

Can you imagine the burden whatever secular western state keeping your backwards ass is bearing?

My ass is oriented correctly, you can't convince me otherwise.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not even 3 months into the regime too.

He is a lion towards the helpless and an ostrich towards the entity.

Good thing the entity destroyed the stockpiles he could've used on his own people. This should make it quicker than the previous civil war at least.

Edit: I don't mean this to sound callous. The whole situation is awful for the ethnic and religious minorities of Syria. They are fighting for their right to exist against the desires of the regime to exterminate them (or leave them to be exterminated by the entity in the case of the Syrian Druze.)

It was only a matter of time before the regime sent its dogs after the people it claimed to "protect."

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck al jazeera and the qatari regime. Assad linked my ass. I have seen massacre upon massacre today and al jazeera and sectarian extremists just keep saying assadist to mean anyone not wahhabist.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah these folks don't want Assad back. They might have some history with the regime, but only because Assad survived thanks to a loose alliance of alawites, druze, and other groups that faced total destruction under a Wahabbi fascist regime.

These people will not welcome bashar back. They'll make something better.

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most definitely. And as other posters here have pointed out, he was incompetent and was desperate for acceptance from the gulf states who are more loyal to the imperialists than their own people. Just tons of stupidity and missteps.

Still miles better than rhe head choppers but that's not saying much.

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