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Surcharge part of initial retaliatory measures that will remain in place until U.S. tariffs are removed for good

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[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

Excellent - let's keep it that way until Mango Mussolini lifts all his bullshit tariffs.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm unfamiliar with the electricity market. Will it affect all Americans or only those at the border like New York state which is already anti Trump?

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ontario currently exports electricity generated across the province directly to Michigan, New York and Minnesota.

I assume those are the only states that would be affected.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

New York and Minnesota voted against Trump.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

One ~~band~~ country!
One ~~sound~~ president!

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

+1 to "Doesn't matter", but also: New York and Minnesota's electoral college votes did not go to Trump*.

On both states at least 40% of the votes were Trump, so it's not like it's a haven of angels being unfairly impacted. Use your blue/red paint by county instead of by state and see how it goes.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

This for sure. I live in Brockville, right across the river from our neighbours and Northern New York State voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Fuck them.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I assume those are the only states that would be affected.

Not in an interconnected and dynamic grid.

If neighboring states have higher demand at a given time and those 3 states have a surplus at the same time, they can sell it along (presumably at the new higher price).

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

And they also compete for electricity with consumers in those other states, so rates can go up, just because those utilities profits can go up by supplying neighbours.

Quebec needs to add an export tariff on their electricity too. Use the proceeds to subsidize aluminum energy costs.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From what Ford said, Americans who are using the electricity from Ontario will expect to pay an extra $100 on their bill (unless he raises the rates even higher).

As long as those people understand that this is Trump's fault, and they direct their anger towards Trump and his enablers, this will be very effective! And we can always just turn that power off if they aren't putting enough pressure on the trump crime family🤭

[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

As long as people who have proven for 10+ years that they exhibit no critical thinking skills will suddenly development them when they’re met with an extra $100/month…

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Power is all part of an interconnected grid (except Texas- they're special..). It's a complex dynamic system with complex and varying rates associated with it.

If there is more power available in those states than they need at a given moment, they sell it on to other areas that have more need than supply. And in this case, they'll try to sell at the increased price.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] thefool@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I didn't vote for the PC MPP in my riding, but I 100% support Doug Ford with this

[–] flamingsjack@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Next time trump complains, send him this.