No. I also don't consider the United States to be a democracy.
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The next election will tell, my tin hat is on Puting the US into a situation where an election can't be held so they can have a third term.
I'm not sure even with a successful election and it going to the democrats we'll be able to tell. At least from today's view. It will largely depend on how institutions and the justice/court system can hold out against the current administration right now and during this phase.
I feel like they may have already created damage that won't be cleared just from one election or one election period's fixups.
At the same time, hopefully, this is the wake-up call for opposition and a transformation one way or another. It's plainly obvious what is happening now, and I am hoping opposition will become more apparent and prevalent because of it. Not just in citizens, but institutions too.
Unfortunately, it's still a democracy. The electorate wanted what's now going on. That could rapidly change at this point, but for now not yet.
Democracy is a sliding scale and the US is still on it. Could the people choose something different without resorting to violent revolution and protest? Yes
I'm a bit skeptical about this argument because autocratic states love to hold practically fake and forced elections with 90 or 99 % approval and use that as justification.
I think the possibly final test for American democracy will be the midterm elections in two years. By then, I think that either trump will have broken the system enough to get a sham election, or we'll see real, verifiable push-back against him. International organisations that monitor elections will probably take part in shaping my opinion on whether the election is fair or not. I think it's worth remembering that whenever countries hold "fake and forced elections" there are plenty of international observers that point out the major rigging going on.
Sure, but that’s not the case in the US
Unfortunately yes. People wanted this. They still want this. But people were also cheering for like, Mao even after he put millions of his own citizens into the ground, so who knows
No. I agree with the comment about the electoral system and gerrymandering as fundamental issues. And the current administration does not respect the judiciary branch, that much is clear, and their actions are completely undermining the supposed divisions of power, without which there is no democracy.
yeah of course. it's still a corrupted and broken democracy.
I don't recognise the current American regime as a valid government. Just like I don't recognise the Israeli occupation force as a valid state.
It's not remotely binding or even meaningful to anyone but myself of course. But hey, nothing matters these days.
I am inside and I want to get out
Same. Is there a sign up sheet, or...?
For the time being, sure. I dint think democracy is a binary. Democracy doesn't imply a fair system or universal suffrage or a system where power is split.
Like for example the Vatican is a absolute monarchy and also a democracy.
Is demos how you say money in Greek?
I know this isn't Greek, but I immediately thought of pesos and I bet you some people are gonna be hella mad if you call the US a pesocracy
No, unfortunately.
I do. On my imaginary scale around 4 out of 10. So far the mess looks to me like it was voted in.
Elective dictatorship, there is no accountability. Is there even a mechanism for the public to recall the president? Or is that it for the next 4 years?
There is not. He would have to be impeached by the senate, and then convicted by the majority of the Senate. Since the majority are currently his sycophants, it's effectively not an option.
Yes. But becoming more flawed by the day
Serious answer : I am not living there, have no idea how to compare, nor whether the court system works as a safeguard.
Troll answer In democracy you have the right to healthcare and education, so it's been a while it isn't
Shit I live inside the US and I barely consider it a democracy.
Never has been.
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
Nope
A demo-crazy.
Note that it is not democracy what Trumpeltier is destroying at the moment. It is the functioning of the state. This will take so many years to rebuild, if possible at all.
Yes, but hardly an example for a good one. Besides that, it has become a bad ally, if it even is one at this time, and a factor of uncertainty.
Kinda. On how the voting process works in general, I consider it a worse democracy than Brazil, since nearly anything only gets voted if there's enough lobby money being thrown at it, not to mention the astronomic campaign costs. Each state having different voting laws makes the democracy weaker
Yes, Americans voted for this administration
That's a retorical question, isn't it?