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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 22 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Come on lemmy, chill the fuck out with the conspiracy theories. This place is starting to feel like an infowars facebook group ffs

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

When Russia is involved it's hardly a conspiracy theory. They are known to take out political opponents when it suits them.

That being said, I will reserve judgement until there is an official cause of death.

Edit: I didn't realize so many were accusing US. Hadn't seen that in other threads.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think if it was Russia they would be more obvious about it.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, they aren't exactly known for their subtle murders.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 12 points 13 hours ago

Yeah. She was American. Probably bad food or the ravages of a for-profit health industry.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This place still insists that Trump's assassination attempt was a set up, a key point being "without looking it up, tell me who did it! That's proof!"

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yeah, it’s quite obvious how majority of the users here align politically speaking. I mean take a look at what happened to !conservative@lemmy.ml and !conservative@lemmy.world

Say anything remotely conservative and you get downvoted to oblivion, but who cares, karma doesn’t matter here.

Edit: looks like they banned/de-federated !conservative@lemmy.ml & !conservative@lemmy.world for my instance, makes sense for what happened.

[–] FreeHat@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

A friend of the family told ABC News on Sunday that police believe the death was the result of a longstanding medical issue.

Ah well that settles it. Russia did it. I don’t need any further evidence because my head is hollow just like the moon. Suck it Trumpers who’s stupid now?

[–] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly it was completely natural, she simply fell down an elevator shaft, onto some bullets.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Gravity is a natural phenomenon, and lead a natural element. So yeah, that'd be natural causes.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People with her facial features have heart issues (I can't remember what it's called) she was probably having a lot of stress from just watching the news.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes... Is there a book or resource explaining more?

Not sure about the heart, but stress over prolonged period can lead to such facial features.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I beleive it's a genetic disease. There's an acctress that looks similar, who's name I can't remember now. She's a commedian with short dark hair. Sorry, my memorry is not great.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 minute ago

Are you thinking of Kristen Schaal?

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

However, officials are still awaiting a formal report as to the cause and manner of her death from the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

[–] MasterReflection1916@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Holy bot brigades, Batman

[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

So, now you are killing political figures. Good work US. Such a nice way to go the same way as the third world cartel countries.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Always have been. 🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

You forgot the 🌎

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if it’s somehow related to open ai whistleblowers death. That was 3 months ago.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

someone investigating trump is bound to get epsteined. if miss GHISLAINE spills the beans, shes good as dead, but she isnt talking.

funny how the trolls immediately comment on this thread when it relates to trump.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Sigh.

ITT: conspiracies.

Ffs.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

TLDR The point of killing people at this stage is to remove obstacles to the fascist administration. A person who resigned on inauguration day isn't an obstacle.

I do not get where the users commenting about conspiracies and upvoting them are coming from with this line of reasoning. US doctors are notoriously bad at diagnosing women's health problems as they are trained on almost exclusively male patients.

It's not a conspiracy. We are overpaying for the worst healthcare system in developed countries. The healthcare system is killing us.

Not to mention this month's bombing operation in Yemen was leaked to the Atlantic via the chief editor being invited to the Signal group. This administration doesn't have the wherewithal to target people who resigned voluntarily or the ability to keep it secret in real time.

https://archive.is/2025.03.24-164629/https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

This person resigned. That's what the fascists want. They want everyone who disagrees with them to exit the government so they can replace them with loyalists. Her resignation is not some bold act of resistance, it was more of the same, complying in advance.

If a person stays in their position, openly defies the administration, appeals illegal attempts to have her removed, and then is killed that's when we all need to be pointing out a potential conspiracy.

This person got out of the way for fascists and then died because she was receiving substandard care for a known health condition because Republicans have been allowed to privatize everything at our expense for decades.

She did great work as an US attorney. But she didn't provide any resistance to the incoming administration. The bulk of meaningful resistance from inside the government has been from federal judges. These federal judges are the only ones would even merit this kind of treatment. They are the ones whose court orders are slowing down this administration.

The Trump administration has already ignored one judge's order to turn around planes to El Salvador. The Trump administration is trying to appeal to the Supreme Court to get these court orders overturned. If that doesn't work they will likely ignore them.

In fact, the Trump administration wants to remove universal injunction all together, so the courts will lose a crucial check on the executive branch.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/03/trump-asks-supreme-court-to-step-in-on-birthright-citizenship/

Harris characterized the district courts’ orders in the three birthright citizenship cases as “part of a broader trend.” Since Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20, she complained, “district courts have repeatedly issued orders that superintend the internal operations of the Executive Branch by prohibiting the formulation of new policies.” But “[y]ears of experience have shown that the Executive Branch cannot properly perform its functions if any judge anywhere can enjoin every presidential action everywhere. The sooner universal injunctions are ‘eliminated root and branch,’” she concluded, “the better.”

These federal judges are the people this administration would want killed because they are actively resisting the fascists in an impactful way. And they probably won't bother to kill any judges in the short term. If the Supreme Court doesn't make this problem go away the fascists will ignore the courts. edit: typos

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is simple. We'll never actually know. And, for all your very eloquent arguments, the fuckwits at the top are kinda, well, fucking idiots, so no, the fact she isn't a very logical target does not provide a convincing argument against foul play. In fact, the painted turd pretending to run the show clearly has a revenge fetish.

That said, the real tragedy is how any family and friends surviving her have to watch her death get instantly politicized.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

That said, the real tragedy is how any family and friends surviving her have to watch her death get instantly politicized.

Yes, this is the problem with pretending there is any chance of a conspiracy being here. This is anger that should be directed at the healthcare system.

The problem is simple. We’ll never actually know.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's not on me to prove a negative. The evidence we do have suggests she died from an underlying medical condition. That's what we know, right now. If you want to support a different theory find some evidence to support it.

And, for all your very eloquent arguments, the fuckwits at the top are kinda, well, fucking idiots, so no, the fact she isn’t a very logical target does not provide a convincing argument against foul play.

It does though. By your argument's reasoning, they cannot be so dumb to have chosen her as a target and so smart to have covered it up. If they were smart enough cover it up they would never have picked her in the first place and would definitely have gone for these federal judges. But since SCOTUS is stacked and they think they can ignore the courts they don't seem to feel the need.

In fact, the painted turd pretending to run the show clearly has a revenge fetish.

It's not clear that she had anything to do with any of Trump's cases. Her wiki page lists these four:

Prosecution of an MS-13 leader for multiple murders.[6]

Indictments against Russian nationals for operating illicit cryptocurrency exchanges.[7]

Historic war crimes charges against Russian soldiers for actions in Ukraine.[8]

Israeli retaliation leak: Conviction of a former CIA analyst for leaking classified information.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Aber

This administration isn't capable of covering up a murder this convincingly and she isn't even the kind of person Trump would want revenge against. She did nothing against him personally, which is his primary concern. edit: typo

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ummm, the longer your posts get, the more you make a for feel like you're getting paid dude. Wow.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Look through my comment history. I want my fat check. Who is paying me for my hot takes and arguments?

Also, an ad hominem in response to a request for evidence and refutation of your argument's central point? That's not convincing anyone.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I too remember how Jeffrey Epstein very conveniently killed himself under the last Trump administration. And all those Boeing whistleblowers recently.

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

No clearly all of the whistle blowers had unrelated health conditions that just so happened to take them out before they could speak in court. All coincidental.

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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thing that bothers about this is the rampant speculation that is happening because of the state of American society right now. Will we ever know the truth for sure from the ME performing the autopsy given how extremely politicized things are right now? I don't know.

The article, and a few other articles I've read all indicate that she resigned from being a US Attorney before Trump had his second inauguration. People here have provided links to information that she was responsible for investigating Israeli and Russian people suspected of criminal activity. I remained incredibly skeptical that this wasn't anything other than pure coincidence.

Until I read a very interesting Substack article that goes a little deeper and makes the timing even more strange because she actually resigned THE DAY OF TRUMP'S SECOND INAUGURATION according to her Wikipedia. I got the Substack article from the "Talk" page on her Wikipedia.

Usually when people resign they give a slight indication of where they are going to go to next. Claims are that she wasn't forced out. But all of this together just doesn't feel right -- her exit from being a U.S. Attorney and her subsequent unfortunate passing just bothers me.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

I assumed it was normal for people to resign when a new administration comes in. Especially if they are almost certainly getting fired if they don't.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 153 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There is no evidence Trump had her killed. That just means they covered it up, so the lack of evidence is itself evidence.

I've used the same logic that the DOJ used, in court, to say the people they deported were dangerous criminal terrorists: https://bsky.app/profile/stevevladeck.bsky.social/post/3lknpwf2cw22q

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago

the real sign of guilt will be if they do a half assed investigation

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

was about to make a boondocks joke, but given the severity of the implications of what happened here, I stopped myself.

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