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Reddit tries to suppress all discussions related to Luigi, but remember, we have a dedicated community for him: !luigimangione@lemmy.world
Luigi was a wakeup call as to just how heavily information can be censored when it affects the powers at be. I really don't know what to believe anymore. It feels like there's no objective reality.
Guy is going to jail, the grave, or both. Guilty or not the state is not letting a little thing like police evidence tampering or innocence get in the way of him paying for the consequences being brought home to that CEO. Truth was publicly spoken to power, and someone has to pay for that in the states eyes.
America needs more Luigis.
Many, many more.
Definitely more symbols like him. If he's found innocent, then we must ask if Luigi's identity and movement extend to the true killer. If he's found guilty, then we have a more complex conversation.
Either way, we need more.
I’m still convinced this poor kid is a patsy because NYPD was facing down a riot, or worse (for them), for the blatant classism in their investigation efforts.
Unfortunately much of the public has given Luigi credit/deemed him “guilty” out of a need for ideological symbolism and an outlet to express frustration.
Without the obviously planted evidence, all they have is a video that doesn't show his face. If i was on the jury, that's enough reasonable doubt for me.
I mean, he'd need a functional alibi. So far, nobody seems to want to explain where he was when Thompson got got.
No he doesn't, that burden is on the state.
He was vacationing alone in NYC, so nobody knew or noticed him. No different than being home asleep.
Not really; without the items that were seized, they don't really have much of anything that would link him to the location, aside from some bad security camera footage that, IMO, doesn't really look like him. Insisting that he needs an alibi is reversing the burden of proof; it's saying that, unless he can prove he was elsewhere, then their claim must be correct. But they have so little without the evidence seized at the arrest that the case would be very thin.
Look, if you asked me where I was when The Asshole Brian Thompson was shot, I'd have no fucking idea unless it was something that was a big enough deal that I noted it in my calendar. I don't even remember where I was when 11 Sept. happened.
Insisting that he needs an alibi is reversing the burden of proof
We'll see if a jury agrees. Maybe he gets off OJ style on the back of a corrupt incompetent PD and gloves that don't fit.
Look, if you asked me where I was when The Asshole Brian Thompson was shot, I’d have no fucking idea
I could tell you I wasn't in Lower Manhattan easily enough. Especially if I was picked up in a different state.
I'd have more confidence in the "he's a patsy" attitude if he'd gotten Jack Ruby'd during the perp walk. But even setting aside the fact that they traced a suspect several hundred miles and picked him up on associated charges (the gun and fake IDs), none of his legal team releases are saying "My client was wrongly identified and the killer is still out there".
Everything is being kept strictly procedural, which is weird if you've got a real CEO Killer still on the loose.
Literally was with me that night. I can describe his very private birthmark if needed.
I just wanted to say Luigi without getting banned
You can post images, too! Ain't that neat?
I'm on the mobile web client on Firefox (yeah still gotta switch) and it gives me an error navigating to your link here. Says the image is to wide
Please remember the power bestowed upon a juror. Don't take it for granted. https://beyondcourts.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/Jury-Nullification-Toolkit-English_0.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree
There are exceptions, though. It'll be a question of whether or not the prosecution can make an argument that it falls into one of those.
...well, it'll be a question of who's at the judge's bench. The actual law doesn't mean shit in this country.
The judge on the bench in this case has been insisting on Luigi wearing ankle cuffs, so there's that for context...
Luigi is an innocent patsy. The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.
The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.
Hardly call his arrest a convenience. They had to chase him halfway across Pennsylvania.
I'm open to the possibility he was set up. But only in the Lee Harvey Oswald sense (someone mired in radicalism who was tangentially involved). You're going to have to produce a "second gunman" before I toss the abundance of evidence against him as a fabrication.
I'm not particularly remarkable in my looks, and I have so many doppelgangers that people are CONSTANTLY walking up to me claiming that my name is literally anything other than what my name is. I don't believe this is at all a unique feature of my particular genetics, I just happen to have a face that is known as a "familiar face," within both the art and acting sphere, as well as the psychological and sociological spheres of influence.
I'm saying that this concept absolutely applies to Luigi Mangione. He just looks too distinct, and quite frankly too chiseled to match the fuzzy photos of the actual killer. This being an extremely high profile case, in which the investigators involved felt pressure to wrap the case up as quickly as possible most likely led to them grabbing the wrong person, and planting evidence that the real killer abandoned on Luigi.
Pennsylvania isn't particularly big, and it's literally next door to NYC. You can either go directly from PA to NY and drive into the city from the north, or go through New Jersey. It takes longer to go north, but I think it is a better drive, TBH.
He just looks too distinct, and quite frankly too chiseled to match the fuzzy photos of the actual killer.
Sure, because his mug shot isn't a fuzzy pixelated photo.
the investigators involved felt pressure to wrap the case up as quickly as possible most likely led to them grabbing the wrong person
If they have the wrong person, it should be fairly simple for Luigi to produce an alibi to explain that he wasn't in Lower Manhattan at the time of the murder.
Pennsylvania isn’t particularly big, and it’s literally next door to NYC.
It's enormous. 44k mi^2. And he was halfway across it when he was arrested. Again, if he's innocent, and they just grabbed a random guy out of a random diner in flyover territory, and the guy has a long, established online presence and a penchant for selfies, it shouldn't be hard at all to say "My cell phone tracking data proves I wasn't anywhere near Brian Thompson at the time of his death."
Wow, that sketch makes the youthful and confident looking Luigi look more like a mob underling from a GTA game. Yikes
The court artist made Luigi look like a grumpy Liberace. Wtf?!
I worked in courts and the sketch artists are something else. One time, one of them sketched me in 5min. I looked so bummed and guilty that I felt like I was staring down a 25 year sentence. To this day I still keep the drawing on my wall ( ˘ ³˘)