I asked this before but it might have been buried. Can I run this in a web browser because when I go to the site it wants me to download.
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I already have tuta and libreoffice
How the uptime with Tuta these days? Was hearing some negative reviews about extended outages a while back.
I want to leave Proton, but I fear for the day I need a 2FA code and I can't get it.
What’s wrong with proton?
@envoy CEO is a trumpist
I read that it isn't as bad as initially thought: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Damn... so I dont need to switch. Thanks a lot.
I felt like things doesnt matter, because they donated a lot to other projects and stuff, which a trumpist would never do and instead would start with a worse service for more money.
@envoy No additional "analysis" by some random guy on internet can change what the CEO wrote and did. I saw him admire trump. I saw him use company support account for his personal fight. This really needs something a bit stronger than an "analysis" to regain some trust.
I am trying to outrun evil techbros but it's impossible...
Self host email, It's not thaylt hard and its good for everyone to make small email servers a thing again
Follow-up question how much does it cost you?
10-20 a year for a domain name.
dynamic dns from freedns is free
Email server is a free laptop with a broken screen
I set it up with dockermail server in an afternoon. They have good docs, it was easy.
The thing keeping me from self hosted email is despite working in the tech field for 8 years, I still can't seem to wrap my head around SSL certs, especially trying to use one from Let's Encrypt. I don't know why.
I recommend you just ask chatgpt to explain how to use certbot Tell it your domain name and ask it to give you the command to create the crrtificates What I do is ask for a systemd service file to check all certificates once a day and update certificates with less than 1 month remaining. After that its taken care of forever
Ty
I have been thinking about it but I wasn’t sure if it would be secure enough. But I will look into it. I have my own domain through a host with a site that has email but it’s for a business I am trying to get going so I don’t want to use that for personal shit.
I will do some research about it. I think I have the skills to set it up I just don’t know how to keep it secured.
Do you run it on a machine at home or do you host it with a provider?
Runs on laptop with broken screen.
The software for email server is multiple decades old, I don't worry about it. Also email isn't really secure. If you have real secrets, you need to use end to end encryption on top.
Sure, but if I can dodge one by simply switching email hosts, why not?
This is great news, and I might be tempted to use it if I had some reassurance that the mail servers (and the organisation that controls them) weren't subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
Ok, this part is pretty cool:
Thunderbird Assist will also be available. This experimental feature, developed in collaboration with Flower AI, offers optional artificial intelligence functionalities for users who want them while also addressing privacy concerns head-on. On devices robust enough to handle AI models locally, Thunderbird Assist processes everything on the user’s own machine.
However, for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.
I've been unwilling to touch cloud based AI, much less expose my emails to it as there's no guarantee of privacy, but being able to run a local model allows you the functionality without the risk. Haven't used Thunderbird in years, but this is tempting me to give it another shot.
Why on earth would I want AI integrated in my email?
“AI” or as they were called for the longest time machine learning algorithms can do things like spell check and help with grammar.
The more modern algorithms that they started really calling AI can help format your ideas, can fix sentence structure, and can even translate into foreign languages
Email is probably the most useful place for AI as most of the ones we talk about today are really good at language formatting but don’t really have any intelligence
For example you can write an email cursing out your boss saying “as I fucking told you yesterday” and then ask the AI to rewrite your email in a professional tone so that it says “per my previous email” like sure you can obviously do that yourself but it’s a lot faster to word vomit your thoughts into a computer especially when it’s trivial work related garbage and save your mental energy for your personal time
Trying real hard not to be old man yelling at clouds, but have things gotten so bad people can no longer write a simple email without help with sentence structure?
I'm not sure if "things have gotten so bad". The native English speakers who actually use this stuff are probably the ones who struggled with writing in school and have always been terrible at it. That's obviously not everyone though, a lot of people are still competent enough to type their own emails.
I'm a software developer, not a writer or a salesperson, but I have to do sales to sell my software.
I can write a first draft of a sales email to get my ideas across and then have the AI look at it from a specific perspective I don't have the skills in.
I dont just take whatever it says and hit send though, I have a conversation with it to tweak things i don't like, remove things that I don't think are needed or add things it missed.
Do this for 15 to 20 minutes and I end up with a much more polished email that won't come across as AI slop with all the personal touches I did want to add.
Just a question on the value of time: If you can't be bothered to write it, why should anyone bother to read it? Is it really that valuable of a message?
Eh. You might not, but the "normies" might. Expanding the userbase is always a good idea for open source projects.
Well, I wouldn't like AI in any communication client of mine. Perhaps if it's local to my box I would like that, but this solution really seems cloud based, meaning one could have an AI crawling over one's data, to do whatever it wants with it. And local solutions usually are not as "good" as the cloud ones for whatever reason (hardware availability, data, and so on):
for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.
There's still tuta, or even /e/ (now a days murena), which still seem safer privacy wise than this new thunderbird option.
I'm really hoping for a "librewolf" kind of fork oriented to privacy, and betterbird doesn't offer anything like that. The phoenix project has a safer user config for both firefox and thunderbird, but that doesn't get rid of components (well perhaps it could possibly turn them off, though to make sure they better get ripped at build time).
Does any one know if this new TB service would offer caldav and carddav services as well? I didn't see anything on stalwart advertisement.
Finally, Mozilla is finally doing something innovative for once. Stalwart is freaking awesome.