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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Still too low. $17/hour let's you apply for an apt with a monthly rent of $906 or less. Most require 3x rent in order to apply.

17x40x4=$2,720 monthly income 2,720÷3=$906.67 max monthly rent

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

That's still a sad minimum wage. MIT clearly calculates a more realistic minimum wage for each state and county nationwide. Any place I've looked at in the past 5 years has been 20+ usually 20-26 but even saying that doesn't matter. And lasted I looked into the calculations they were based on a no-life lifestyle, and no processed food.

Minimum wage is something no one should budge on. If inflation happens minimum wage adjusts.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don’t understand why it’s a fixed number and not a formula…

[–] kerntucky@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

I do: greed and corruption. It sucks but it's the truth.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Increasing min wage is great and all, but doesnt really solve the real problemn like landlord greed and corpations buying up real estate driving of living costs.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

If inflation happens minimum wage adjusts.

this is the way it works in australia and it works great! based on cpi though, so a more reliable “cost of living” metric

[–] sudo@programming.dev 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In 2021, the House passed legislation to raise the minimum from $7.25 to $15 an hour, but it failed in the Senate despite a slim Democratic majority after eight centrist Democrats voted against the measure.

And would happen again because the party is addicted to losing.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're still thinking Bernie expects this to pass, and he isn't going to use it against them once they block it.

This is ammo for the 2026 and 2028 pocket.

"Hey remember when Republicans shot down my notion of raising minimum wage to $17/h?!"

"They what!?"

"Those fuckers!"

[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

If that strategy ever worked Bernie would've been president in 2016. Hell I just pointed out he tried it in 2021 and it hasn't yielded shit.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago

Republicans don't care about voting history, they care about the R next to a candidate on the ballot. You could tell them that their Rep voted aginast securing them a better life, and they'd tell you "Sounds like commie talk, MAGA!!" And if you show a canidate who would give them a better life, they'd just say something about wokeism or whatever, and then claim they know what's best for America.

Democrats won't care about a Republican's voting history, because they're not going to vote for a Republican.

Voting records don't really do anything for Republican dipshits.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just to be clear, this means that enough House Republicans defected to pass the bill but Senate Democrats killed it. These guys are literally worse than Republicans.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Everytime I say this shit I get wrecked but it's true. Dems ALSO do not care about us at all.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Conveniently there's always enough traitor dems to make fascism win. But never enough collaboration to push the bar the other way.

Ratchet effect

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

"No I voted for him, so he really cares about me as he votes to strip me of my rights and ignore my phone calls!"

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In 2021 the Democrats had a majority in the House.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Okay that makes a lot more sense.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

crazy we're still in 2009's minimum wage, that should be updated every year

[–] jasonwnclife@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is why it is so important that of/when a minimum wage hike happens that tied with it is an periodic inflationary based raise is attached to the bill.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That won't happen unless it's after a bloody revolution

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

My state rejected to adjust minimum wage to the cost of living index. It would have yearly adjusted the wage with the cost of rent, food, healthcare, etc. and then still allow it to be increased by other means.

I still am blundered by this, but I know corporate and republican propaganda got to them.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

$17 was needed before everything doubled in price.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cue Trump abolishing minimum wage altogether.

Maximum wage! If you make $20/h or less, that’s your new maximum.

[–] BowlingForBowls@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

The GOP embarrass themselves with or without Trump.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We should double what we ask for minimum wage every time we get told no.

UBI supporters: what happened to the minimum wage is the future of any UBI.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Democrats line up behind Bernie outside election season.

Bernie lines up behind Democrats in election season.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm really afraid the DNC is just using Bernie again to try to funnel votes to Neoliberal canidates, and that Bernie secretly isn't a progressive. :c

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You should really do some research then, as he has been a socialist since college - and to put that time in perspective his dad was born in the Austro-Hungarian empire so it’s not a recent flip

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know his history i was a huge fan

I'm talking about him bending the knee to the DNC Neoliberals in 2016 when he could have stayed in and won the presidency instead of fucking 10 more years of fascists/neoliberal fascists.

Watch what he does now closely, if he tells us to vote for Democrats again we are FUCKED

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He would not have won the presidency, the system is rigged to be two party only and he would have utterly destroyed his career. Knowing the man he will always go for the harm reduction option.

I wonder if you can compare what happened to teddy Roosevelt and Bernie's case

[–] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

the system is rigged to be two party only

If the system is rigged, why not protest for fix the thing that is rigged and not after the fact when the rigged thing isn't in your favor?

Your complacency is what's perpetuating this rigged system, yet you all think your "party" is going to fix it when they're both only looking out for themselves.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well it sure is good we went for harm reduction so Hillary won instead...

Oh wait

Also Teddy didn't get elected, he was VP when McKinley was assisnated, and he would have never gotten elected for a second term if he wasn't already in power.

This is why the DNC won't even let a progressive be VP.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok I must be rusty in my history, afaik teddy was fairly popular toward the end of his first term and won reelection easily

and i meant specifically the time he wanted to run for a third, lost the nom and formed a third party. It didn't go great for him and it would not have gone great for bernie

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So when did Bernie get to be president for 8 years I'm missing that part?

Or are there differences between the 1950s and 2025?

In reality most people want a 3rd party

https://news.gallup.com/poll/512135/support-third-political-party.aspx

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spoiler then, he will tell us to vote for Democrats - that’s not a conspiracy, that’s literally our only option out of this. I don’t want it either but get out of your bubble a bit if you really think this is a conspiracy, it’s not healthy

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And then 4 more years of Neoliberals doing nothing to push our society to the left, then people get frustrated and Republicans win again.

The ratchet keeps clicking to the right and idiots keep making exuces to never free themselves from the Duopoly.

I completely agree. If you have a realistic alternative I’d love to hear it.