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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 36 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Carney is a smart guy. He met with leaders in the EU and discussed a slow selloff of US Treasury bonds to remind Trump that the US is being propped up by the rest of the world. The next day, Trump paused the tariffs citing “people getting too yippy” as his justification.

It’s great to see intelligent and composed leaders put him in his place. China said, “we have been here for 5,000 years, most of that time without the US, and we expect to be here for 5,000 more.” That’s some Teddy Roosevelt shit right there.

[–] annette_runner@lemmy.world -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure PRC has been around for only 70ish years.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

I wonder who build that really big wall...

Must've been aliens

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So China has existed for 5000 years but America has only existed since white peoples decided to start a government? Or are you cool with Native Americans claiming 50,000 years?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The Chinese people lived in China prior to the PRC. The same is not true for the European colonialists.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

American people lived in America prior to Europeans too. That was my point.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No. We are talking about China and I asked a specific question. Now you are bordering on being racist.

[–] notjustlurking@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 minutes ago

You are being obtuse, and know that the natives in America are not the ones in political power.

It was built by the Qin Dynasty, which despite being called "the first unified China" was a fraction of the size of modern China. And was built in part to keep people who are also now Chinese, and not just Mongols) out of "China"

And it also didn't last, it was fractured whem that dynasty fell.

Other than distant genetics, they have as much in common with modern China as the Greek government does to the linage of Ptolemy.

[–] annette_runner@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago

Are you implying that the PRC built the wall?

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 39 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 21 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

It's almost as if the senile old man was a better choice than the convicted felon narcissist traitor. Nobody could have known.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I thought “senile old man” was a reference to Trump until I continued reading.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that phrase on its own doesn't do much to weed out politicians.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... I voted for the not-senile poc woman

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Anyone of mild intelligence voted for her. The idiots and petulant children voted orange or not at all, which includes third party.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You get to choose between a giant douche and a shit sandwich

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

This is a stray thought but I don’t know why “douche” became a universal insult. I mean, every woman I know says “douchebag” occasionally so it’s only part misogyny. But no one is in favor of filthy mysterious lady parts. Personally, I don’t want any mysterious holes to be filthy. I hope nutria rats have clean hovels.

Whomsoever does PR and lobbying for Big Douche is really fucking it up. If anything, hygiene products should be neutral or positive terms. But those douches can’t even get that right. Even Big Hose has better PR.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

You're funny

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

that democrat from texas's comment about how they called him sleepy joe biden and was like yeah because you could sleep at night knowing your 401k was safe.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

And not wake up to at least three on-the-verge international incidents or and/or breaking scandals

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There’s an inertia to geriatrics that start to wax and wane.

Biden did one thing his entire life, and he had an intact army of bureaucrats to hold him up.

I do think this old man is also waxing and waning, and that Trump too is following the inertia of his base tendencies which is why he is more erratic and stubborn now. And Trump doesn’t have friends or real family he has sycophants.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Biden did one thing?

Then why did Trump have to sign over 220 executive orders to undo Biden's work?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

That poster meant that Biden was a politician for his whole life, and built up a competent political apparatus that could keep his agenda going even while he took an extra nap now and then.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

I didn’t state the context strongly enough with “his entire life”, allow me to expand on that. Biden is a career politician. Washington is his life. He’s more or less had one job within different roles, involving politics and navigating Washington.

As such, the inertia of all of that action, at his jobs held in Washington across the span of decades kept him on track as he waxes and wanes mentally. It’s why some people were probably quite honest when they said they didn’t see a problem in their conversations with him. That’s how waxing and waning works while in a familiar environment.

Screen slide to Trump. What is his inertia as he waxes and wanes outside of his home.

Geriatrics who are fraying around the edges also do worse when not at home.

Biden, arguably, was at home in Washington having spent 52 years of his life there. Is Trump? This is what, year 5, total? And didn’t he spend half of the last 4 at Maralago?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

He wasn't entirely fresh any more but more or less knew what he was doing. And he wasn't actively trying to destroy the country at the behest of a hostile foreign power. But yeah, gas was more expensive.

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Oh, because you know the president has a dial on his desk to adjust gas prices

/s

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago

gas was more expensive???

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago

"And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more"