Folding like a cheap suit after making duuuuumbfuck decisions.
A true American hero.
The conservative savior.
A cult.
It's a cult.
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At least he made all his billionaire backers a lot of extra money from all of this.
after all his cronies got on TV talking about making iphones in the US ... fucking lol.
And somehow american gagging only made the Chinese dick grow in its mouth.
Art of the fellatio.
I'm starting to think this Trump guy doesn't know what he's doing. /s
Not any more!! you cannot trust a word that comes out of the shit gibbons mouth hole.
You mean Americans are spared from tax on smartphones and computers.
he has to poke all of these holes in his threats, and this tells me he's not bluffing. the end goal is not negotiation, but a huge tariff wall.
I no longer have a retirement plan
you dont want to keep your propaganda spreading technologies unaffordable
Does anyone know what reciprocal means?
Just checking.
It means China bad America good.
Donald Trump had the right to defend himself and history started whenever China put counter tariffs on America.
It's almost like they don't know what they're doing.
Unless it’s just plain old stock market manipulation with a twist. Always follow the money.
Nah. It's not almost like that. Nope. It's exactly that.
This is weaponized incompetence and stupidity.
I split this evolving situation according to different scenarios and try to weight their relative probability. What’s the motive, where’s the gain?
A) 80% Some variation of pure incompetence where they tried some shit with whatever aim and weren’t prepared for the hard pushback they got served quickly and decisively. Current events are capitulation, at least for a moment.
B) 15% We are in a Russia-like scenario where this administration needs to govern from fear : population fear deportation and can’t elect another government and fear from the companies that he can crash anything at will without remorse : pay regularly to avoid the destruction of your business model. Mafia protection tax will be lucrative for the few people at the very top.
C) 5% Wider destruction of society with genocide and a new flavour of slavery. Luckily this one is difficult and stoping at a mid point, pivoting to B, is easier. Achieving stability in a “network city” scenario doesn’t seems plausible to me : one small example: try to manufacture stuff to give your ruler class quality healthcare without any scale because war killed so much people… modern stuff is outrageously complicated.
Medical care in Switzerland is an option when you have the money. That is what most dictators do.
You can pause the tariffs but you can't pause the uncertainty you've introduced into the system, Don.
Especially when he has basically admitted that it is stock market manipulation. Everyone knows the tariffs will return or potentially even something stupider.
Somebody got a call from Tim Apple. So much for the clamor to make iPhones in the US. More American jobs vaporized, just like that.
I don't think the general populace was particularly interested in buying 5000 dollar US made smartphones lmao
Nope. Just ludicrous propositions to terrorize everyone on the planet.
Lol. Conservatives don't care. Libs fucking OWNED. We got fucking OWNED, y'all.
Do you feel it? Does it fucking hurt to be owned by poor people who will now be poorer with less options?
They fucking showed us. And themselves. Fuck yeah!!!
Ignorance is strength!!!
Building iPhones in the US was never going to happen, it would double or triple the price if we did it here.
It's not about the price. There just isn't enough capacity and workers to build that many.
Which is why the price would dramatically go up. Labor is cheap in China because it's plentiful, labor is expensive here because it's not. Making iPhones here means diverting labor from other good jobs.
No I mean it wouldn't be possible to make them here, if you tried to build a series of factories they would not have enough workers. It's like an order of magnitude scale difference, the largest industrial plant in the US is 30k workers and in China the big one for iPhones is 350k. And that is 350k people working super long hours. Even in China labor isn't plentiful anymore, there is shortages of labor in the coastal areas. You try to hire a staffing firm and tell them you want 300k skilled workers in a city and they'll just laugh at you.
If you increase wages high enough, you'll get the workers. However, that'll have negative effects for whatever those workers were doing before.
Now this loophole will make sure everything is a cell phone or computer. Every toy will suddenly have gps a gig of ram and a touch screen. Micromachines are going to be lit.
Even potato chips will identify as micro chips.
ZeroCool flavored Doritos.
No. Even a large tariff on a 3$ piece of plastic that retails for 20-30 won't be worth adding anything.
I'm not so sure about that. With tarrifs of over 100%, manufacturers can add over a 100% to the cost of production and still come out ahead... Alternatively they could move production, but that only makes sense to do if it's cheaper than adding just enough electronics to make the items exempt from tarrifs
"with tariffs...manufacturers can add...come out ahead" - do you imply manufacturers are getting anything? This is not them who rsises the prices, they won't see the money
if they reduce the tariff on their product and charge the same post tariff price they could make more profit even with higher manufacturing costs.
That's more or less my point. They won't come out ahead but at least they won't have to raise the prices as much so they'll be more completive compared to manufacturers that don't include electronics
That won't work, because building a new factory takes 2-5 years and if the tariffs drop at any point then you're stuck with a product way more expensive that nobody will buy.
They? They like "manufacturers"? They can't reduce tariffs, the tariffs exist against them, it's only the orange who introduced them can reduce them.
What a pussy. Got a call from Tim Apple and caved immediately.
I feel like the uncertainty is worse for business than the actual tarries at this point
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$AAPL stonk go up.
Before Trump announced it publicly. Martha Stewart was jailed for less.
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Come on China, send a message and slap export duties on them until Trump buckles again.
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Today, sure.
If electronics fall out of favor, it will be harder to profile and track us
US/Trump blinking continues. If electronics jobs were both desirable and already on a partial progress groove, then surely apparel/toys tariffs are next to be removed, and then only US military electronics will be 145% tariffed, if not blacklisted by China.
Trade deficit with China just substantially increased. US energy, ag, big ticket industrial exports just went to 0.
Is switch 2 a computer?
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