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'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line
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You meant ANOTHER crucial red line.
We're running out of red ink for all these red lines being crossed.
experts are trying to convince americans to respond, but we aren't.
Like the French Revolution, it takes a lot for a revolt. Ultimately if faces aren't seen, it forgotten. As for republicans, if they aren't white faces; it's forgotten in a day or two.
Lots of us are peacefully protesting and it's pretty hard for most of us to do anything more than that
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The previous dismissals of court orders were injunctions, not rulings. That’s a contempt of court charge, not a constitutional crisis.
Today were both the first and second rulings he has openly defied. The first was refusing to return Garcia. The second was refusing to allow the AP into the Oval Office to cover the press conference.
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I look behind us and I just see a red road. It's all red lines, all the way back.
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LOL the Orange Turd crossed the line a long time ago when he tried to overthrow the government with his MAGAt army.
I’m so sick of the media playing this fucking game.
The media in this country is so infuriating. They asked if we were going to do anything about it, and Bondi says its up to El Salvador. So they asked the El Salvador Hitler, and he says "What am I supposed to do? Its not up to me to make decisions for another country, its a preposterous question!"
Literally EVERY person in the world who could negotiate such a thing was sitting right there in that room, and none of the "journalists" suggested they work it out right now, with the whole world watching.
Yesterday, Peter Navarro was on Meet The Press, and the host never asked him a single question about his primary source for his tariff expertise being a phony expert whose name is an anagram of his own. Its all I would have talked about, but she never alluded to it at all, even at the end when he was blathering on with weird insincere flattery of the host (I got the idea that that's how he addresses HitlerPig). The guy is a total fraud, and yet he is in charge of our disastrous tariff strategy, and she can't ask him a single question about his obvious fraudulent qualifications on the subject.
The journalists in the White House Press Corps, and hosting shows like Meet The Press, are supposed to be the top journalists in their proffession, but they treat their jobs as if their only responsibility is to provide a platform for the worst people to present their propaganda as Truth, without any questions.
Then they elected him again. Fucking leopards I tell ya.
He was openly threathening US people, or "dissidents". So he is basically saying in between lines, that if you rise against him, he'll do very crazy things. This makes me hope for a Quick removal of the rot.
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Oh. Okay. THIS is the crisis moment. Sure.
Surely this time people will all get together and walk down to DC and drag his orange ass out onto the lawn. Surely.
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The American people's passiveness with regard to "red lines" is about on par with Putin's overuse of the term. I expect a bit of whining online for 24-48 hours but no meaningful actions.
Mass organizing in the US is logistically difficult, and all our media is owned by people who want to see the protests fail so the coverage isn't amazing. But we have millions of people protesting right now and the numbers have been growing fast. Protesters have been under threat of arrest and possible death for ages, and they're opening it up to "get black bagged and sent to tortureville forever". We have so much working against us even getting resistance off the ground and yeah we aren't amazing at it, there's a good chance we can't pull it off, but we're trying
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American conservatives have proudly declared their desire to disregard these "red lines" for decades. I'm done waiting on the media to recognize them for what they are - enemies.
You can’t wait for the media, because the media is largely owned by the far right.
They make highly inflammatory right leaning news programs, and highly complacent left leaning news programs. It keeps the right active and angry, and tells the left to sit down and fret quietly while waiting for due process to solve problems.
Man I miss old Looney Tunes.
I went and saw the new movie with Porky Pig and Daffy Duck: The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie and it was pretty darn good.
And listen, I know now isn't really a good time to watch a movie and get distracted, but it did a pretty good job of distracting me and made my mental health a tiny bit better not having to think about what we're going through and will be going through.
There’s nothing wrong with taking a little break from reality. You’ve got to let your mind a soul rest for a bit or you’ll just get depressed!
In a world with habitual line steppers, we need a Charlie Murphy to "check" them.
And nothing will be done because it's not just Trump crossing that crucial red line, every Republican is right there behind him.
He, his cronies, and half the party need to be tried for treason.
Only half?
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In a true democracy that would be way beyond the red line, but in USA today, this is just another Monday.
No shit. That’s why I voted for Harris
No.
When he deports a citizen who is immediately killed in prison, that's a red line.
And even then only if he's white, and Christian enough.
These are red lines of unacceptable behavior and policy, not the lines marking when Americans will actually pay attention. And even if what you describe were to happen, all the Trump supporters would just come up with excuses, while others would protest through the usual channels and be ignored.
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I don't think that would do mit either. Not even if it's a pregnant woman.
It will be deflected, as the prisons fault, and Trump will continue to send pregnant women without a second thought.
It's all boiling a frog. If he did that day one it would be over the line and cause response. Each step along the way that is eventually accepted makes the next step easier, which enables the one after that and so forth. They deported "criminals" not legally in the country with little protest, they faced little pushback when it turned out they weren't criminals, so they then moved on to those who are here legally. And as this is becoming mundane they're laying the groundwork for it to be citizens.
The only line they have is what the people will tolerate, and they're expanding that day by day.
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When 'Yes, Prime Minister' had a scene about salami tactics, it was referring to the Russians invading West Berlin.
It feels far more relevant to Nazi America today than the actual Russian invasion of Ukraine.
What parody are we living in?
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Yeah, eight years ago.
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