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Xbox first party titles expected to hit $80 USD this holiday; Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

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[–] porthos@startrek.website 106 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

That is because the job of Game Pass isn't to make money, it is to funnel customers into subscription services and destroy the idea that people buy games from artists.

Game Pass either succeeds and destroys the gaming industry like spotify did to music or Microsoft will abandon Game Pass.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 55 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Correction: It is to make money, but the goal is to get people to subscribe now then jack up the prices once people start relying on it.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

People never bought music from artists.

They bought it from record labels.

Whenever you see an artist complain they had a million streams and made twenty dollars, it's not Spotify that's keeping it all.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

They've already plateaued and basically admitted to it. It's a large revenue stream that's not as large as they thought it would be, so now they're going to coast with it and rely on just being a massive publisher instead.

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[–] DefinitelyNotAnAlien@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As we are all switching from Windows to Linux, I’m actually surprised Microsoft is doing this. I guess they really don’t want to be competitive in the consumer market anymore. I guess they are making enough money through military contracts now that they don’t need to cater to us.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We all? I mean, I have, but we represent single digit percentages of the market, which is why they keep shoving more bullshit into Windows that no one wants, because hardly anyone leaves Windows. The most that this affects Linux gamers is if you like their controllers or individual games that they publish, but that would be the same as on Windows as well.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We all, all of me. I don't have to care about what others are buying, because Steam and Linux is an amazing gaming experience and they're the ones missing out. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But your entire point was based on the idea that people are switching to Linux in droves...

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That was somebody else's point. I just chimed in with my own take. :D

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Haha my bad! I'm usually good at looking for usernames, but I definitely didn't look this time. Carry on, my bad

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I still use my Xbox One to play some Battlefield games. But I'm never buying a new console ever again. Fuck Microsfot. Fuck Sony. And you know what Nintendo fuck you too. Price gouging, greedy fucks the lot of them. PC+emulators is now the way to go, fuck all these greedy companies.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’ll fix their record low sales!

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Oh no.

Anyway.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 58 points 4 days ago (31 children)

It's strange really. You can buy 4 extremely good indie games for the price of one game. And that's at a 20 each.

And with steam sales and sharing...valve is fun.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Thank you so fucking much Nintendo for upping the standard and the everyone else falling in line because consoomers didn't scoff at all and sold out pre-orders

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 3 days ago

Like Nvidia video cards did during the pandemic...

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Valve hasn’t gotten the memo yet. Someone email them again?

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 40 points 4 days ago (5 children)

if anyone was looking for a good time to switch to PC, it's now. some stuff will be harder but you'll have steam sales and control over your own device (more than a console anyway, if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft).

[–] ximtor@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft

Luckily, there is another choice. Linux runs pretty smooth and has gotten much simpler to use over the years.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

All hail Proton!

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

Plus steam deck is pretty solid.

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

I wonder if the price increase will be spent on making a chart that tells me which XBox is which?

I don't know exactly when I got old, but I feel angry every time Xbox reminds me that I'm too old to know which is which.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Weren’t consoles supposed to be the cheaper, more convenient option?

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I didnt know Linux manufactured solid controllers. Can you link me one? /s

Like for real: Xbox Controllers are actually good.

[–] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

8bitdo controllers are fucking amazing.

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Fact. Thats all I use now. Just ordered another one today lol

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wish I could agree, but the consistently broken bumpers really irritate me.

I have gone through probably 20ish Xbox controllers, the 360 controllers were the most durable (except the stick rubber bit) whereas the core and series controllers and even my elite 2 controllers have all had the bumpers break or otherwise stop functioning.

I replaces the bumpers several times manually, then with the elite 2 they changed the design but now it breaks at the actual button instead of the flimsy plastic piece like on the core/series controllers.

Luckily putting some ISO on the button and throughly cleaning it along with sticking a small piece of paper near the actuator seems to have fixed it for several months.

I would love a solid controller with Xbox style layout (particularly the thumbsticks) replaceable sticks and 4 back paddles. I think the Playstation TouchPad would also be a welcome addition for PC navigation or steam input mapping.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Fuck the US for inflicting this on the rest of the world.
At least the ones that voted the orange guy.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well, that settles it. $80 games is going to be the new standard and Sony will quickly trail along. Oh well, nothing much has changed for patient gamers.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Yeah, buy most games at half price or less, fully patched up and with all the DLCs. Such a joy!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

$80 on release day. $60 a month later. $40 a year later. $20 a year after that.

What you're paying for isn't the game, its the hype. An enormous component of a modern AAA game's budget is just advertising. That's what your $80 is going towards. You're paying to have people tell you to buy it.

Even assuming you don't feel like pirating... Just be patient, play something that came out a few years ago, wait for the next Steam Sale, and own the game for pennies on the dollar.

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[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

The last three games I paid for were Minecraft, Factorio and Dwarf Fortress (pre-Kitfox).

I haven't needed a new one since that.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you Microsoft, for taking pressure off Nintendo. 😛

[–] bennel@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The difference is: Microsoft and Sony 1st party titles go on sale and eventually come down in price over time.

Nintendo first party titles are always full price, even for 5 year old games.

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[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

There has always been an inherent value to consoles but if that goes away then I can genuinely see them dying off. Personally I thinks the current gen is a huge disappointment anyway and this news just makes it even more ridiculous.

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[–] mahin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After my series s becomes irrelevant, I'm switching to a PC.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I pretty much switched to the Steam Deck, but I still have a backlog of games on Xbox that I may end up with one or two last Xboxes if my Series S dies for any reason. Hopefully it lives long enough that I don't have to get a new Xbox sometime in the future.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

ARGGGGHH ya filthy vermin 😂 Fuck your subscriptions. 10tb checking in.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Microsoft may as well just cancel their whole Xbox hardware business. Xbox Series is a secondary market for Microsoft games after PlayStation and any console successor they release is going to limp to the starting line. At least the XSX had hype from the Bethesda acquisition and previous Obsidian/Inxile/etc acquisitions

Really we all need a Steam Deck 2 and a stronger Valve produced Strix Halo mini-PC

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[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Steam can't release a "console" soon enough.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Thousands of them already exist. They're called PCs.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Millions you mean.

Hundreds of millions.

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[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 days ago

My last Xbox was Xbox one. Never going back.

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