Spencer Weiss, a Pennsylvania voter quoted by The Times who backed Biden in 2020 but now supports Trump, said: “The world is falling apart under Biden.” He added: “I would much rather see somebody that I feel can be a positive role-model leader for the country. But at least I think Trump has his wits about him.”
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This has to be propaganda.
CNN is owned by a right-wing billionaire. They've been trending right since Biden took office. They really showed their (new) colors when they did that first softball Trump interview.
It's almost definitely propaganda or at least lazy fact-checking that is useful to that end.
The media is literally doing the same shit again. The only thing these polls should ask is "do you value US democracy?" Maybe if we didn't have a story every fucking morning about how much stupid people care about a three year age difference, more people would be taking this seriously.
Mr. Weiss, did you already forget about the pandemic and economic crisis that happened under Trump and Biden had to deal with?
You'd be surprised about people in Pennsylvania.
Going through Milford close to election night was a surreal experience.
You can always tell a Milford man...
Milford
Unrelated but shout out to the Waterwheel 🩶
This is the embarrassment that is America now. We will probably never recover from this.
In my outsider opinion you have one more chance. This is it. If you can repel Fascism this time it will get easier next time. If you don't, I fear for us all.
Unfortunately, nobody is an outsider anymore.
Wish i could do some laughing and mocking besides all the crying but with afd(german far right/fascists largely) on the rise and the conservatives moving a step into their direction every other week there is really no energy left to laugh at anything.
So the 2030s are just gonna be a repeat of the 1930s?
Hopefully not but it sure seems like people fancy some fascism all arpund the globe. I find it kinda hard to not fall in to doomerism these days. Just gotta believe extra hard but i am running low on hopium and copium.
Same here for what it's worth
You think you recovered from slavery or the genocide of the indigenous people, but not trump?
I mean the US is pretty much the wealthiest and most productive society in the history of the world. Yes, our collective souls are stained forever by the sins of our fathers, but that's hardly unique to the US.
Trump is actually going to usher in a new era of darkness which is going to be as bad as anyone alive has ever seen. I get that some people are still in denial, but this real.
What the hell happened to CNN?
It got bought out by a right winger with the explicit intention of making it more like Fox.
See also Newsweek and The Hill.
Well he's fucking succeeding. This article was trash.
horse race = ratings = more money
Siena College is a private Franciscan college. The Franciscans are a group of related mendicant Christian religious orders. Siena was founded by the Order of Friars Minor in 1937. The college has 3,000 full-time students.
So, a conservative Christian college says Trump is ahead. Got it.
Siena is reputable when it comes to polling. It's not like they just choose a friar to guess what the outcome of an election will be. This kind of surface-level criticism is bad for consuming accurate information.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/siena-college/
I live near Sienna and my son visited there as he looks at colleges. It's definitely still got religious roots (the friars are still a constant presence), but they've gotten more non-denominational. I also got the impression that they aren't that conservative. They might not be as liberal as some colleges, but they aren't alt-right either.
That being said, my son decided against Sienna for various reasons (including the fact that their Computer Science department seems tiny compared to other colleges in the area).
The bigger issue isn't the college's leaning, it's that polls a year out are pretty worthless. In politics, a year is basically forever. The big issues driving voters right now can be completely different a year from now. Events and scandals can crop up that could be the focus of the 2024 election. So while perhaps the Biden campaign should use this poll to remind themselves not to be complacent, I don't think this poll means that it's time to panic.
In Nevada, which Biden narrowly won in 2020, Trump leads 52% to Biden’s 41%. Trump leads in Georgia, a state where he is facing racketeering charges, 49% to Biden’s 43%. The ex-president up 49% to 44% in Arizona, another key state. In Michigan, which Trump won in 2016 and Biden won in 2020, the Republican is up 5 points.
The poll shows Biden weakening among Black and Hispanic voters. And 71% of those polled said he was too old to be an effective president, while only 39% said the same of Trump – who is 77.
Spencer Weiss, a Pennsylvania voter quoted by The Times who backed Biden in 2020 but now supports Trump, said: “The world is falling apart under Biden.” He added: “I would much rather see somebody that I feel can be a positive role-model leader for the country. But at least I think Trump has his wits about him.”
I simply don't believe that any person could switch from Biden to Trump.
This voter they spoke to must be lying about supporting Biden in 2020.
If Trump gains support in a state, it has to be that people moved in or out of the state.
It could still affect the election, but at least my interpretation would mean that there is some limit to a single person's stupidity.
Don't get complacent. There are millions of people that buy republican lies hook, line and sinker.
Seems to me that people may sit out or vote for a third party candidate given bad choices. I doubt many people switch to Trump from Biden, but going to the polls won't be exciting.
A record number of people voted in the last election, and both candidates got millions more votes than 2016. And some margins in key states were extremely small. All it would take is a town or two's worth of voters staying home in order to sway the margin in a bunch of key states.
The people running the dem party would rather repeat 2016 than give voters a choice.
Regardless of who wins in 2024, they're going to loudly proclaim it means the party needs to move to the right.
This is what happens when both parties are beholden to the same donors. A loss isn't really a lose to them like it is to us. The only way they lose is if a progressive without ties to those donors wins or makes enough noise that voters realize there's no real reason why the Dem candidate can only be slightly better than a Republican in some areas.
You guys give a hoot about polls since 2016?
Still talking about the Hillary polls?
The polls correctly predicted a high likelihood of her winning the popular vote. It's not the fault of the polls that the actual decider is an anti-democratic and unpollable system that disproportionately favors empty land over people.
There were several models from sources like 538 that took the electoral map into account and still got it wrong. People didn't admit their cult membership back then, today they are afraid to hide it.
538 said Trump had about a 30% chance of winning.
In what way did they "get it wrong?"
That's partly true. 538 in particular has a tendency to be overly sure of itself and too cute by half.
A lot of what they do includes much more educated guesswork than actual polling, though, so "538 got it wrong" ≠ "the concept of polling got it wrong"
Point taken.
Especially polls a year early.
Particularly when people are upset at Biden for Israel stuffs… the reality is, none of the progressives that support Palestine will ever support a republican
(and let’s be honest, trump probably would have had troops on the ground going into combat in Gaza too. Biden’s response is more moderate than that brand of Republicanism.)
And a lot of the people who, right now, are saying "we'll vote third party" or "we just won't vote" will change their tune if it comes to November and it's a close Biden vs Trump.
This isn't to say that Biden should take these votes for granted, of course. (Hillary made the fatal mistake of taking votes for granted.) However, it's a common occurrence for people to refuse to back one party's candidate a year out and then come back into the fold near election day. The Republicans will likely have a similar occurrence with people refusing to vote for Trump, but then deciding to do so in November 2024.
Do you know how many poll requests are in my spam folder? Only old people get polls.
Same phone polls are the worst - they only call land lines. Who do you know who (a) has a land line and (b) answers numbers they don't recognize?
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