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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Good luck with your 256 characters.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you run out of characters, you simply create another 0 byte file to encode the rest.

Check mate, storage manufacturers.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

File name file system! Looks like we broke the universe! Wait, why is my MFT so large?!

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

255, generally, because null termination. ZFS does 1023, the argument not being "people should have long filenames" but "unicode exists", ReiserFS 4032, Reiser4 3976. Not that anyone uses Reiser, any more. Also Linux' PATH_MAX of 4096 still applies. Though that's in the end just a POSIX define, I'm not sure whether that limit is actually enforced by open(2)... man page speaks of ENAMETOOLONG but doesn't give a maximum.

It's not like filesystems couldn't support it it's that FS people consider it pointless. ZFS does, in principle, support gigantic file metadata but using it would break use cases like having a separate vdev for your volume's metadata. What's the point of having (effectively) separate index drives when your data drives are empty.

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[–] JamonBear@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You want real infinite storage space? Here you go: https://github.com/philipl/pifs

[–] groet@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Easy, just replace each byte of data with multiple bytes of metadata. I see no problem here

[–] needanke@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Finally someone uses the fact that compute time is so much cheaper than storage!

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

that's awesome! I'm just migrating all my data to πfs. finally mathematics is put to a proper use!

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 days ago

Breakthrough vibes

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I had a manager once tell me during a casual conversation with complete sincerity that one day with advancements in compression algorithms we could get any file down to a single bit. I really didn't know what to say to that level of absurdity. I just nodded.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well he's not wrong. The decompression would be a problem though.

[–] groet@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah with lossy compression the future is today!

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's the kind of manager that also tells you that you just lack creativity and vision if you tell them that it's not possible. They also post regularly on LinkedIn

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can give me any file, and I can create a compression algorithm that reduces it to 1 bit. (*)

spoiler(*) No guarantees about the size of the decompression algorithm or its efficacy on other files

u can have everthing in a single bit, if the decompressor includes the whole universe

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Send him your work: 1 (or 0 ofc)

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

That’s precisely when you bet on it.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Just make a file system that maps each file name to 2 files. The 0 file and the 1 file.

Now with just a filename and 1 bit, you can have any file! The file is just 1 bit. It's the filesystems that needs more than that.

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[–] hades@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember the first time I ran out of inodes: it was very confusing. You just start getting ENOSPC, but du still says you have half the disk space available.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

Ah memories. That was an interesting lesson.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 162 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If you have a tub full of water and a take a sip, you still have a tub full of water. Therefore only drink in small sips and you will have infinite water.

Water shortage is a scam.

[–] Kiuyn@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

If you have a water bottle and only drink half of it each time, you will also have infinite 💦

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Name all your files *.

[–] wizzim@infosec.pub 115 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Awesome idea. In base 64 to deal with all the funky characters.

It will be really nice to browse this filesystem...

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 86 points 3 days ago

The design is very human

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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's all fun and games until your computer turns into a black hole because there is too much information in too little of a volume.

[–] proti@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Even better! According to no hiding theorem, you can't destroy information. With black holes you maybe possibly could be able to recover the data as it leaks through the Hawking radiation.
Perfect for long term storage

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't wait to hear news about a major site leaking user passwords through hawking radiation.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's like that chip tune webpage where the entire track is encoded in the url.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Are you trying to get rickrolled?

[–] lemon@sh.itjust.works 92 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Broke: file names have a max character length.

Woke: split b64-encoded data into numbered parts and add .part-1..n suffix to each file name.

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[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 2 days ago (7 children)
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[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Stupid BUT: making the font in LibreOffice bigger saves space. so having 11 is readible but by changing the font size to like 500 it can save some mb per page
I dont know how it works, i just noticed it at some point

Edit: i think it was kb, not mb

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago

per page

I mean, yes. obviously.

If you had 1000 bytes of text on 1 page before, you now have 1byte per page on 1000 pages afterwards

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Have a macro that decreases all font size on opening and then increases all again before closing.

Follow me irl for more compression techniques.

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[–] Typewar@infosec.pub 39 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Reminds me of a project i stumbled upon the other day using various services like Google drive, Dropbox, cloudflare, discord for simultaneous remote storage. The goal was to use whatever service that has data to upload to, to store content there as a Filesystem.

I only remember discord being one of the weird ones where they would use base512 (or higher, I couldn't find the library) to encode the data. The thing with discord, is that you're limited by characters, and so the best way to store data in a compact way is to take advantage of whatever characters that are supported

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 41 points 3 days ago

What about a hard drive made of network pings?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJSW7Rprio

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 29 points 2 days ago

I remember a project where someone booted Linux off of Google Drive. Cursed on many levels.

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"Harder Drive"

Store the data in pings that constantly get resent to keep the data in the internet

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[–] anhkagi@jlai.lu 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

this is actually a joke compression algorithm that compresses your data by one byte by appending it to the filename. (and you can execute it as many time as you want)

Too bad I can't remember the name.

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