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We poisoned the whole planet so our eggs wouldn't stick to the pan ๐Ÿ™ƒ (youtu.be)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

  • yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title

  • no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other

  • The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.

  • These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)

  • There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 67 points 6 days ago (6 children)

We did not do anything. A very small group of people indeed knowingly and willingly poisoned the earth for a bunch of monies.

You'd think they'd be jailed for that, but here we are

[โ€“] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This means that now that everyone knows what is required to produce non-stick pans, they will vanish from stores because 99% of humans are well meaning and will not buy destructive products.

Just kidding. My parents (>70yo) told me as achild not to use teflon pans, because they are 'unhealthy'. We all knew. We just don't care.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not "we". You. Many of us actively campaign against it.

[โ€“] Pogbom@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Given the ratio of people who actively campaign against it to people who don't care, I think it's pretty safe to say "we don't care".

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[โ€“] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

They can make Teflon without the forever chemicals. They choose to make it the way they do because it is cheap and easy to scale. Rather than develop better solutions that don't poison us they choose easy money and are rewarded for it.

[โ€“] bstix@feddit.dk 83 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For anyone who can't be bothered to watch the entire 1 hour episode: It's not really about frying pans.

The PFAs are everywhere by now. Butter on a pan will do jack shit to save you. It's really fucked up. You should watch the video.

[โ€“] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yup your most likely sources are stuff like:

  • your water supply
  • any coated paper materials coming into contact with (hot) food and beverages, eg. Burger wrappers, coated paper coffee cups, microwave popcorn, pizza boxes, etc.
[โ€“] skeezix@lemmy.world 75 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We didn't poison the whole planet so our eggs wont stick. A small number of people poisoned the planet to get rich

[โ€“] justdoitlater@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

This is the truth!

[โ€“] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Firefighting foam used at airports. Every airport, every military base with an airstrip practices routinely with PFAS. They are still doing it.

It is everywhere. Water, soil, rain and you.

[โ€“] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago

I lost a coworker to brain cancer this year that was caused by his exposure to PFAs when he was a firefighter. This shit is fucked.

[โ€“] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 6 days ago

I happen to live near one. The city had to shut down a well until they could install a filter.

I also have an undersink RO system, but people shouldn't have to do that.

[โ€“] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"We poisoned the planet"

Fuck off! Unscrupulous greed industrialists poisoned the planet knowingly and tried to hide or minimize the fact from the public.

[โ€“] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

To be clear: This image is directed at the greedy industrialists.

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious where this money actually went. Like which specific people have it right now.

[โ€“] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These persons paid a lot to have laws that exempt them from any responsibility.

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Sure, of course they're legally immune. Just curious who they are anyways.

[โ€“] accideath@feddit.org 19 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Got myself a set of ceramic coated pans just a few days ago. Am very happy with them. No PFAS at all and much better anti stick than my old teflon pan.

[โ€“] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

Enameled cast iron is like magic.
Worst case I let it soak for a bit and it comes out clean with just a brush in a minute.

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[โ€“] Green_FieldS@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

For more information about this subject I recommend watching this documentary by independent journalism platform Zembla. That talks in detail about the company DuPont (Chemours) and PFOA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kzHc-eV88&pp=ygULWmVtYmxhIHBmb2E%3D

[โ€“] Chocrates@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Yay, my generations lead poisoning. Fuck capitalism

[โ€“] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

We poisoned the planet for us

[โ€“] j5906@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago

To be fair only like 0.1% (yes I made this number up) of all Fluoropolymers end up in frying pans.

Most of it is used in industry, building, medicine...

[โ€“] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Use stainless steel and cast iron and nothing else

[โ€“] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Carbon steel, glass, clay, ceramic, aluminum, and enameled cast iron are all great too!

Also stainless steel has the potential to leach chromium into foods. Research into this is still preliminary.

[โ€“] Eximius@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

If you watch the video, it says there is no reason to switch, as teflon is not poisonous. The catalyst chemicals in manufacturing when released into rivers and other places is the biggest source. Then some shoddy packaging of fast foods.

PFASes are not only used for your pan.

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