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US states by population data (you'll have to do a little work to sort).

New York City population - estimated 8.4M in 2024.

The only states it's lower than are:

  • Virginia
  • New Jersey
  • Michigan
  • North Carolina
  • Georgia
  • Ohio
  • Illinois
  • Pennsylvania
  • New York
  • Florida
  • Texas
  • California
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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The only states it's lower than are:

  • New York

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The gif makes me assume you're joking but just in case - New York city v's New York state :)

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, a sarcastic GIF but you are technically correct (the best kind).

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean it's a given that NYC has a lower population than NY state but I didn't want to get overly pedantic.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago

Hehe, that's just a fun thing I noticed 😉

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another fun fact. They think getting rid of the electoral college would give NYC the power of the election. It would be 2%. And the entire city would have to vote one way. You'd still need 48% from somewhere else.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nah, they just know it would shift the balance of power from rural to urban and that they would lose that battle every time since about 80% of the US population lives in urban areas and most people in cities vote left.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Getting rid of the electoral college would be fine, too, with the added benefit of everyone having an equal vote. The only "good thing" about just revamping it is keeping the facade for rural voters

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The second good thing about revamping it is fixing the balance of power in the house, giving more (proportional) power to urban centers as well.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's crazy how interacting with a lot of people of various different backgrounds has a tendency to push people to the left, whereas having a half-mile long driveway makes it easy to stay conservative.

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I think CGPGrey was the one that said even the top 10 largest cities would only give 8%. And not all cities go one way. Our city in NY has a lot of Republican support. NYC would have like 40% siphoned off too. Which would cut even more into the majority.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It also has about the same population as the bottom 10 states combined! The entire population of both Dakotas are outmatched by Queens alone.

The least populated state - Wyoming - is about the same population as Staten Island.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I often use "Milwaukee statehood" as a rhetorical tool for any argument about states rights or why we should have 10 tiny population states. Milwaukee has about as many people in it as all of Wyoming, and yet Milwaukee doesn't get two senators

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Pretty crazy alright. I was shocked tbh. I saw one of those "land doesn't vote" style memes and decided to look it up.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Another fun fact, if you're out of Ukraine: In Europe, it is virtually always the case that the capital city of a country is also the largest city. The only two non-microstate exceptions that I recall are Switzerland (Bern and Zurich) and Kazakhstan (Astana and Almaty).

That's not the case for the US as a whole (Washington, DC and New York City), and more-often-than-not, it's also not the case for individual US states.

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not quite correct. Kazakhstan is in central Asia, not Europe, even by a loose definition. Instead, Belgium (Brussels vs. Antwerp) and - by some definitions of Europe - Turkey (Ankara vs. Istanbul) should be on your list.

Wikipedia has a complete list.

Edit: Germany used to be a case that did this intentionally until 1990. While it was split into West and East Germany, West Germany chose Bonn as its capital as Berlin was surrounded by East Germany. They could have chosen a large city like Hamburg, Munich, Cologne or Frankfurt but went with the much smaller Bonn to symbolize that it was only a temporary solution.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not quite correct. Kazakhstan is in central Asia, not Europe

Some of the country extends into it, making it transcontinental, like Turkey. Yeah, I should have included Turkey; good catch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan

Kazakhstan,[d] officially the Republic of Kazakhstan,[e] is a landlocked country primarily in Central Asia, with a small portion in Eastern Europe.

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 5 points 1 week ago

Oh, TIL that the small part by the Caspian Sea is far enough west to be considered Europe. Thanks for the correction.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

New Mexico's Capital, Santa Fe is our 4th most populous city, coming in behind a suburb of Albuquerque.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was watching a video of someone driving through the capital of South Dakota, Pierre, a couple months ago. It's pretty dinky too.

It's their...checks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_South_Dakota

11th-largest city.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you know New York has a higher population than New York?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

(USA, New York]

[–] brezel@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm never sure what people mean when they write "all but".

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That it would be all, but there are listed/counted exceptions. NYC would have a higher population than all states, but the 12 listed ruin the fun

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All except for is how I meant it. I could have gone the other way and said higher than 38 I suppose.

[–] brezel@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

thanks :) i guess native speakers don't have this problem :)

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly, it would be a fair question from many a native speaker so your English is superb for what it's worth.

If you ever come across other idiosyncrasies (weirdness) like that and could use a native speaker's input, feel free to ask me.

English is weird.

[–] brezel@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah states with major cities have a higher population,