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This is why i call it separating the artisr from the finance, the art is just unavoidable collateral damage.
Perfect example. Hp Lovecraft is dead he gains no money, rallies no crowd, calls no lawmaker. JkR does still, she does gain money and spends it trying to make the world worse for people.
Minecraft Creator notch went the same way, as did Dilbert author..
I'm convinced there's a cabal of billionaires that either get dirt on people on the rise and corrupt/blackmail them, or eliminate people who are not corruptable before they get too rich/powerful. It doesn't take much to kill someone, and neuvo riche probably aren't prepared for the precautions they'd actually need to take.
That and money corrupts (or so we're told, seems like it'd make as much sense that people who hoard money corrupt)
Money/power doesn't corrupt, it liberates you from the consequences of your actions. It allows you to freely be fully true to yourself without fear of repercussions.
They are....billionaires. That is the common denominator of horrible people. They think that because they are rich beyond measure that their opinions should rule the world. The world would be a much much better place if we were rid of the pestilence of the billionaire class and maybe the '$100s of millions' class. No one gets to being a billionaire by being completely honest, law abiding, fair, moral and ethical. Rules must be ignored in the quest for superlative riches. Those rules are only for those who haven't become rich enough to ignore them. Even if they seem like benign benefactors, scratch the surface and you will find they are, without exception, evil.
Also like Elon Musk, her origin story is a load of bullshit.
Fuck rowling, i pirate ALL her shit. Ill do what i want with the I.P. and nobody can stop me.
Same, I love HP. It's probably my all time favourite series, but I haven't paid her a cent since she showed her true colours, and I never will again. So I pirate.
"I'll make my own Hogwarts! With blackjack, and hookers!"
That's called The Magicians
Her work did really speak to me as a young gay child in a place where it wasn't ok. That being said, fuck the author. Haven't gone to the park, haven't seen the new movies, haven't played the new games, haven't given her any money in well over a decade.
In this day and age, I can easily find entertainment elsewhere. Anyone else that loved her work can do the same.
...but really must tell others of us with less personal investment about the nature of what and why. I knew she was controversial and probably a bad person due to headlines in the periphery, but I didn't know she is a genocidal monster type of a person. H.P. was a little late (in film) for my childhood, but it is still good to know why exactly she is to be avoided at the peripheral awareness cultural level.
Related to the reply at the bottom, it's so weird to me whenever people try to either separate or hand-wave Lovecraft's attitudes from his works as if they're not super-duper fucking related to each other. Like, you can't say "HPL was a elitist xenophobe but Shadow over Innsmouth is a good story," like one doesn't follow the other... "therefore, Shadow over Innsmouth is a good story."
Part of what makes Lovecraft's horrors so timeless dispite their frankly dated and unsatisfying writings is how he tapped into a primal fear that most other creatives have abandoned, the fear of "the other group."
/rant
I may elaborate more/clarify some things if people want to talk about it
Also HPL is super dead, his estate isnt continuing his legacy of being a racist fart waffle. The whole "Death of the author" problem becomes much easier once the actual author is dead and they no longer personally benifit from the discussion or consumption of their work.
Thats why JKR is so problematic, engaging with her BS keeps her relavent so she can do more damage. HPL can be discussed more freely because he cant break anything else from his coffin in Providence.
Defending shadow over inssmouth, specifically, is weird because that is the one where the scary part is supposed to be the main dude finding out he's the offspring of a monkey-princess from Africa. The most obvious, straight up not even subtle racist twist.
It is a good story... Up until the end and you're meant to be scared by "oh no my grandma was black!"
You’re thinking of Arthur Jermyn. Innsmouth is the fish people that the neighbouring town thought was simply a product of spending so much time fraternising with the Chinese.
Black? The twist was he was a fishman.
To Lovecraft, the sinister other was a continuum stretching from people of non-WASP stock all the way to ancient chaos gods at the core of a vast, pitiless universe
Using "stock" when describing racial lines: Pure HP. 🤌🏻
He was what I call hilariously racist, as in, so over the top all you can do is laugh. Hell, he hated on other white New Englanders that weren't from "good stock".
And his cat, LOL my god, what a name. (Really wasn't unusual to name a black animal something like that. As Archie Bunker would say, "What?! That's what we called dose people in dose days!)
I don’t want to talk about it but I like where your thought it going. I’m just not feeling like I have a lot to add.
Lovecraft is a bit of an odd duck in this comparison largely because his own works are fairly dull and uninteresting on top of being a generally shitty person overall.
His contributions are mostly that he had some really interesting ideas from the world building side of things that other authors and creators turned into far more interesting stories. Not really comparable to JKR in that Harry Potter is actually a pretty good piece of YA fiction.
I think Harry Potter is pretty shitty and uninteresting fiction. It is not really a constructive argument though, because it is entirely subjective. A lot of people thinks that Lovecraft wrote some great and interesting fiction, so I am not really sure what you are trying to say.
Well, Harry Potter is entertaining, but it is racist and bigoted in a more modern subtle micro-aggressive way. “Slaves actually want it, if you are a good master” apology, Voldemort is evil because he wants to be immortal (not because he promotes the ideas of an genocidal eugenicist), glorifying emotional manipulation, the high school jock is the protagonist and he grows up to be a cop. The text is difficult content wise for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with Rowling's political stances. I mean the girl of Asian descent is literally called Cho Chang.
She called the Asian girl "ching chong", she called one of the few black people in it "shackle bolt", and she might as well have called the Irish kid "Irish O'Carbomb" given his name an propensity for unintentionally setting things on fire.
Don't even get me started on the goblins.
She straight up admitted lycanthropy is HIV, and all werewolves are interested j is spreading their disease by attacking anyone nearby, one werewolf specifically targets children, if I remember correctly.
The only gay characters I am aware of, one is a villain, and the other other is "one of the good ones" who never acted on it after a point and just stayed a celibate single.
The only non-magical users in the magic world "squibs", basically disabled people, are portrayed as shitty humans. Every summer Harry got left with ms fig who was "a mad old lady", and the school caretaker Filch, who is a sadist that welcomes umbridge with open arms, a parasite who latches on to whoever benefits him most.
I'm sure there's others I've never caught or thought about.
The alcoholic driving instructor. Her name is Madam Hooch, what more proof do you need?
Voldemort is evil because he wants to be immortal (not because he promotes the ideas of an genocidal eugenicist)
That's not quite true but the degree that's tolerated is what makes it odd.
In (I think) the seventh book, the trio is horrified, upon infiltrating the Ministry of Magic, at a statue that the Death Eaters have installed which has wizards sitting on muggles as a throne with the phrase "Magic is Might" (for whatever reason, my brain remembered this as, like, a centaur and an elf and, maybe, a goblin underneath but I think this still qualifies for genocidal eugenicism, nonetheless).
But (as you and others have pointed out) these ideas have kind of tepidly been present throughout wizard society well through the books. Even if we disregard – say – Malfoy's use of Mudblood and such (as his family was always analogous to supremacist families, anyway): Arthur Weasley's pretty much not respected by his colleagues for his interest in muggles (which, if we were to actually take themes seriously, could have been an opportunity for Rowling to draw further connections with his monetary class) while those who do respect him kind of just regard it as pointless amusement, the fact that nearly every magical creature exists meaningfully segregated from wizarding society without any exploration of why (even in cases where the text provides it as being a choice by the magical creatures), and other small bits.
Like, perfectly reasonable if you're trying to represent a realistic society (people have all kinds of prejudices) but Rowling and her protagonists seemingly have no interest in it (or, perhaps more importantly, rooting it out more thoroughly past the overt supremacy of Voldemort).
Explicit, in-your-face bigotry: the books come down hard on but it seems wholly interested in maintaining the status quo, so long as it isn't disruptive.
Which, like, (considering the author) isn't surprising but I do find it interesting in the ways in manifests itself.
(for whatever reason, my brain remembered this as, like, a centaur and an elf and, maybe, a goblin underneath but I think this still qualifies for genocidal eugenicism, nonetheless).
You remembered correctly, kinda. The "Magic Is Might" statue was installed later on, but during Order Of The Phoenix in the ministry there's the 'Fountain of Magical Brethren'. It's a wizard and a witch that are being stared up at adoringly by a centaur, goblin, and an elf.
Which I wouldn't call genocidal eugenicism, but it's definitely problematic in a different way. I think I remember Dumbledore pretty explicitly calling the statue a bad thing, but I don't remember exactly how or when.
Oh, I meant that the muggles being made the throne, rather than other magical creatures, was still genocidal eugenicism (basically, still qualifies, even if I didn't remember correctly).
But the previous example you bring up is another case of what I was trying to highlight: the books are aware of the low-key prejudice present throughout the society. Both implicitly and explicitly (e.g. Dumbledore's highlight), it's aware that less overt forms of prejudice exists.
Which is what makes it never getting addressed, by the end of the books, so…I dunno, notable, in some capacity?
It'd be much more simple if we could just say that the books implicitly argue for the status quo but it's something more overt, instead. The books seem cognizant and aware of marginalization – both supremacist (à la Voldemort) and social/somewhat-systemic (various examples we've brought up) – yet there's a way in which even this awareness is tamped down to that's-just-the-way-it-is by not even arguing for it but just by…doing nothing about it. These microaggressions and prejudices are noticed though never confronted while we continue to socialize and interact with these people who express such bigotry and never gets resolved in any meaningful way, by the end.
I’d say his writings were more novel, and interesting, than Rowling’s. He overused fancy words, and when you stripped away the ornament, his stories ran on xenophobia and catastrophising (“what if those weird-looking foreigners practice human sacrifice, or are really not humans but fish-monsters?”), but he could write a compellingly eerie story. (Some of them have, of course, aged worse than others.) Rowling, meanwhile, plots like a LLM trained on the past century of British children’s literature.
Meanwhile, neck-deep in AI slop and surrounded by bots, the uncanny valley of people that aren't people with unknowable intentions may turn out to be the most resonant.
Fourth grade me disagreed with it being pretty good YA fiction even at that age. It was generic and only decent if it was your first exposure to YA fantasy.
HP ain't got shit on The Hobbit.
Solution? Trans-positive fanfiction that celebrates the parts you’re nostalgic for, but doesn’t financially benefit Rowling
shes going to hate star trek or most sci fi genre.
Trekkie here. People still complain about modern Trek being "woke" unlike their preferred version (which definitely does not talk about "woke" issues through allegory, or something)
Which is odd, since nutrek seems obsessed with section 31 and the mirror universe, so fascists should be on board.
those people are conservatives, and i dont believe they were ever true trek fans, to say that. the problem with nutrek is the showrunners/execs pushing thier own agenda, and "tyring to be offended for thier target audience" of OG trek.
Again, this is just vibes based. I will not be defending Discovery but Lower Decks is fucking awesome and Strange New Worlds is a solid return to TNG style storytelling. Vaguely gesturing at imagined wokeness is not an argument.
Trans Wizard Harriet Porber by Chuck Tingle unironically slaps.
Chuck Tingle is amazing and I hope continues to write for a long long time.
Yeah but I ruin her life and argument so waste that time. It's just a fantasy she tries to keep alive.
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long, narrow, harder to read, not searchable, not accessible
no text alternative or link even through a demonetized client like nitter.net
breaking the web like this is unnecessary: OP should edit the post to add a link as suggested in rule 4
long, narrow, harder to read
If you're using Lemmy in your browser, you can click on the image and it will open in full size, which you can zoom in and it's pretty big.
found an online OCR:
autismjester - Apr 17
People still tend to lump JK Rowling in with the category of ~problematic artists~ and I need everyone to understand that is not the problem with her. She is not comparable to anyone who wrote a piece of fiction you hate, or someone who made rude comments in 2015 and has since learned better.
She is far more like Elon Musk. She is a radicalized person with an extreme amount of social and financial power, and for YEARS she has been using that power to try to influence her government into hurting vulnerable people, on purpose. And she has succeeded. THAT is the problem with her, and THAT is why spending money on her books is so dangerous, not because her books aged badly.
Critiquing her work is fine, of course (I personally was never a fan so I really don't care) but you NEED to understand that fiction is not the main issue here. And I truly think acting like she's the same as the rest of any giant list of ~problematic creators of the week~ waters down how dangerous she is.
decadent-trans-girl - 18h ago
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@prettyliltakemachine.is-extremely....
Kineticist
every time HP Lovecraft's name comes up in conversation we're obliged to do a collective struggle session about his racism but J.K. Rowling is out here donating the proceeds of her IP to the Foundation For Putting Trannies In The Thresher and people are like 'well her work means a lot to me'
May 17, 2025 at 2:10 PM
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It truly is an encapsulation of ablism that you're being downvoted regarding keeping things accessible on a post about causing harm to the marginalized.
Yep, delicious irony of keyboard activists:
✔️ express consciousness
❌ take real, immediate action that doesn't even require leaving the keyboard/mobile app
Speaks to the sincerity of some.
Is Tumblr federated yet?
source: ~~tumblr.com/autismjester~~ technically, tumblr.com/decadent-trans-girl
This is a tumblr post (by @autismjester) that was reblogged (by @decadent-trans-girl), who added a screenshot of another post (by @prettyliltakemachine.is-extremely...?).
Sourcing sh** in the repost-iverse is rough.