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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 51 minutes ago

It's kind of too late now, though. Even if we somehow convinced every person on earth to never buy another Harry Potter anything ever again. She's already got her bag. That won't go away and she'd continue being a horrible person with the power of wealth.

Elon's wealth, on the other hand, exists almost entirely as a fiction of his businesses' value. He is much more susceptible to being taken down with them.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I never understood all this whinging about J. K. Rowling. I was a big fan of Ender's Game when I was younger, but when Orson Scott Card revealed himself to be an asshole I dropped those books like a bad habit and everyone I knew did the same. There wasn't even really any debate over it. Why are we still wringing our hands about Harry Potter?

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Enders Game (and the whole series) is a bit different, as unlike Harry Potter they are actually trying to teach a lesson in empathy and understanding instead of just being a fun magical romp.

To this day I have literally no idea how the Orson who wrote those books became the man he did. He lives his life by the antithesis of the ideals he preached.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

they are actually trying to teach a lesson in empathy

S.P.E.W. and mugblood rhetoric seem like progressive topics with real world analogues.

Her transphobic politics seem to be separate from the HP universe.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

The point of S.P.E.W. is that Hermoine is an obnoxious activist for caring about slavery so much. Winky gets freed and becomes a depressed alcoholic, the other house elves get pissed that Hermoine tries to give them homemade socks. Hagrid calls Dobby weird for not wanting to be a slave.

Pottermore used to have an article “To SPEW or not to SPEW” which was critical of Hermoine. The text clearly condones the race based slavery. Heck - even the name “SPEW” is a joke.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

He had a stroke in 2011, and I think having two kids die fucked him up. (Some of his early works had sympathetic portrayals of gay men.)

I’ve always found it amusing that the guy who wrote Wyrms (fourteen year old girl is destined to be impregnated by a monster, and the book is her weird horny journey to it) and Hart’s Hope (where our hero has to rape a teenage girl in front of an audience in order to claim sovereignty over the kingdom, and she turns into the story’s main villain) got so hung up about sexual purity.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Because it became a multimedia franchise and fans still want to keep consuming it despite how much she sucks, so there's a lot of mental gymnastics.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago

best I can do on Rowling is look forward to the inevitable Behind the Bastards coverage

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 20 points 7 hours ago

"Influencing" is putting it mildly. Funding organizations with political power is a lot more than that.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Also it’s not just a trans thing.

JK is incredibly ableist and regularly mocks disabled people. For example one of her latest books is basically painting all chronically ill people as malingerers.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's in her HP books. The editor just tampered it down, but you can still see it now that we have a pattern. It's why I hate the people who say, "hate the artist, but love the art" bullshit. The art is bad as well and I'm proud I bailed on that series half way though.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I like the comparison of Harry Potter to Lord of the Rings that points out Harry Potter was a very special, perhaps ethnically special boy, who deserved his powers because he was naturally good, while Frodo Baggins was a dude who got saddled with an absurd level of responsibility, which he never could have handled without a long list of friends and randos who found it amusing to help him.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

If it was just Harry, it would just be an over used clique, but ethnic or birth traits kept coming up. Hagrid is naturally angry. Voldemort is evil because he was a rape baby. House Elves are natural ~~slaves~~servants. The Weasley will always be poor(even when Harry should be paying rent or at least buying them a new car).

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Voldemort is evil because he was a rape baby.

As a sorta half blood rape baby, this has always driven me mad. I am not evil because my conception was.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

well that is more Harry Potter information than I previously had, but I'll just move on and pretend to be dumber than I am, which is already pretty bad. when I was kid I gathered an embarassing amount of knowledge on Stephen King novels. I didn't really expect him to be one of the good guys in 2025, but there he is.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I gave up on HP half way through, but because the topic kept coming up so when I saw what looked like a good review everything on yt, I put it on in the back ground.

Oh, right. The Irish character kept blowing things up.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

well I just get more and more impressed with Rowling the more I learn

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

"These people aren't fucking exactly the right amount."

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Someone should tell Mobius 1.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

You would think that of all the non-heteosexual sexualities that asexual people would be the least likely for someone to be prejudice against. I understand that asexuality is a spectrum and any generalization about any large group of people lacks accuracy but, generally I've found aces just want to be left alone. Something I think we can all appreciate every now and again. They're just not interested in romantic and/or sexual relationships. The first decade of my life was like that, I think the first decade of most people's lives are like that. What's so hard to understand about people who just don't feel that attraction?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This is why i call it separating the artisr from the finance, the art is just unavoidable collateral damage.

Perfect example. Hp Lovecraft is dead he gains no money, rallies no crowd, calls no lawmaker. JkR does still, she does gain money and spends it trying to make the world worse for people.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago

Lovecraft is problematic for other reasons.

The problem is that what makes his work good is this pathological fear of the other, that he interlinks with xenophobia and notions of racial purity in his fiction.

You can't love the art and hate the author with Lovecraft, you have to accept they're both pretty fucked up.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah and Lovecraft came to see his racism was wrong before the end of his short life. Rowling so far has only clamped down harder on her detrimental bullshit.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is that true? I'm an HP Lovecraft head and had never heard that

[–] Thomrade@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

In his later letters to, and I could be wrong about the recipient, Robert E Howard he lamented that he wasted so much time being afraid of other cultures, and recognised his xenophobia as ignorance.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Lovecraft is also a different case. It should be obvious now that he was a clinical xenophobe and was afraid of most things. He wasn't really looking to put other people down to compensate for his own shortcomings. If Lovecraft was still alive, I wouldn't argue with people boycotting him, but he's not the same as JK.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Moreover, ACAB includes Harry Potter

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Does ACAB extend outside the USA?

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Minecraft Creator notch went the same way, as did Dilbert author..

I'm convinced there's a cabal of billionaires that either get dirt on people on the rise and corrupt/blackmail them, or eliminate people who are not corruptable before they get too rich/powerful. It doesn't take much to kill someone, and neuvo riche probably aren't prepared for the precautions they'd actually need to take.

That and money corrupts (or so we're told, seems like it'd make as much sense that people who hoard money corrupt)

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You should watch Shaun's video on the Harry Potter series. He goes into a deep dive of how the books are littered with her political views - even the first one - and how you can watch her become more conservative as they progress and she became more wealthy: the books start out criticizing the system, but by the end, the message becomes that the system should never be questioned.

Throughout the books are a pattern of borderline racist stereotypes (the black kid is named Shacklebolt, the Asian girl is named two single syllable last names - might as well be named Ching Chong - the 15-year-old Irish kid is obsessed with whiskey and blowing stuff up, etc), but you can also see where her transphobia came from. Everytime she wants you to hate a woman in the books, she describes them as having some kind of masculine features, from a strong jawline to "mannish hands."

As people become more wealthy or famous, they're given a bigger microphone to cast their garbage opinions with and it's never been easier to tell the world your shitty political beliefs than it is right now.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

His video on Rowling’s new friends is also a good watch.

Helen Joyce has gone onto Jordan Peterson for Chrissakes. They’ll overlook their feminism as long as they can hate trans people.

Rowling has also platformed NeoNazi Posey Parker’s work. This is the person who popularized that “adult human female” slogan they love so much.

The feminism is a front. If they make themselves the victims, they can be hateful shits.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

The Harry Potter books aren't very good. They probably only got enough promotion to become the phenomenon they did because the kingmakers knew what kind of a person J. K. Rowling really was. If she'd actually been a decent human being that series would've died in obscurity.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think it just takes quite a few moral failings to even achieve that level of wealth in the first place in the vast majority of cases.

Here specifically, these people are authors and IP holders in a society that places a lot of value in ignorance and in very chauvinist and racist ideas. By hook or by crook, they've made something original. They have some merit, and you would expect them of all people to see those societal failings for what they are. To not comment on them, or to uphold them, or to mask them, (arguably all the same thing) is a decision they made in their work. I think we vastly overestimate how easy it is to do that across an entire body of independent work if it doesn't align with your beliefs.

It makes sense that a person who has the merits and will to do something like that, again, entirely without challenging such obvious failures (as most in their position would), would be chosen to win the broad favor of a society that desperately does not want to be challenged or its failings acknowledged (esp ruling class, the ones with something to lose and wealth to spare to push these things), and would gain a lot of its wealth. Especially in ye old early-internet world when people weren't discovered as easily. Then, when their platform is secure, the mask slips.

It's not a conspiracy or an aberration, it's survivorship bias. These people are a product of our society. We have to reckon with that.

edit: I realized I could expand on what I meant in a few places so I sprinkled a bit more in.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Scott Adams was always insane. Behind the Bastards covered him. Before twitter, we just inserted our own meaning into the short comics. When he had more time to write a story in the cartoon, there were come signs. I remember the Bob Bastard episode and how he views people who give to charity.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

Money/power doesn't corrupt, it liberates you from the consequences of your actions. It allows you to freely be fully true to yourself without fear of repercussions.

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