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    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

    This is true for any OS. If it's not working you can't use it to look up how to fix it. That's not unique to Linux.

    [–] aaron@infosec.pub 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    In the era of 'smart' phones most people have what they need, other than the equivalent of a Windows installation cd (as others have said probably on a bootable usb these days).

    But I think all of the ~~user~~ beginner friendly distributions have a gui settings and package manager that isn't inherently more difficult than windows straight out of the box (and is probably more straightforward). Macs are presumably marginally more stable due to the consistent hardware, but I have only ever had an issue with quite esoteric wifi and graphics cards, and not for a long time.

    [–] boaratio@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

    As someone that has run Linux as my primary desktop OS since 1998, I can confirm this as 100% accurate.

    [–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 4 points 8 hours ago

    I remember printing the gentoo handbook back in 2005 to have something to troubleshoot my install process.

    [–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

    what? windows breaks and you need second screen... but grub never fails you. the meme is closed source propaganda.

    [–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

    Can't relate, I do not use Arch.

    [–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

    So true. I went to my live cd many times

    [–] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 28 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    To be fair, this is true for Windows and Mac too, unless you aren't counting the simple scape goat of wiping and reloading lol

    [–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

    I'll use the scapegoat of most people with Windows aren't actively trying to do things that might massively break it, and additionally the vast majority wouldn't know how to fix it even with a second device on hand and would get someone else to do it anyway.

    Also,

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

    Windows is a mature, established OS, it is perfectly capable of breaking on it's own without the user's input

    [–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

    Look what kind of OS would not just break by siiting their without imput

    [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    A usb stick with a live linux iso is generally enough

    [–] wesley@yall.theatl.social 1 points 10 hours ago

    My setup got messed up once after a kernel update that went bad and booting from the live USB and running the recovery install fixed everything for me

    Only problem was that I had lost the USB, but luckily I still had my Win10 partition I can't boot into and make a new one.

    So it seems the lesson here is you don't need another computer as long as you keep another partition with a backup OS on a different drive?

    [–] axx@slrpnk.net 3 points 15 hours ago

    Or an OS that can rollback easily (ie: Silverblue and friends, NixOS…) Unless you've mangled your bootloader. Then the USB drive comes in handy πŸ˜„

    [–] nul42@lemmy.ca 24 points 20 hours ago

    Back when all I had was one computer with Linux and I got in trouble I had a bootable USB stick so I could load up a browser and search forums for a solution.

    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I remember these tough times. Doing all kinds of shit as a kid and the resolution was just to nuke it all and start anew.

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

    That's how I learned.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    That's what the tty is for, or at worst a bootable thumbdrive, CD, or Floppy. If I can't switch to a tty, I boot a bootable drive, mount my harddrive, and chroot my install. No second machine required. It's rare that I fuck something up though. Rest assured it was some bullshit I was trying, zero to do with Linux itself. But I do remember Windows would just bork itself randomly for no reason at all. I'm sure Microsoft has all that resolved now, but man back in the day it was painfully often.

    [–] Focal@pawb.social 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Forgive my dumb ass for asking an easily googleable question;

    What is tty?

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

    Looks like /u/Luma got you sorted. Awesome feature right? It's been there for a long as I can remember. This is the best part about Linux. People who use Linux created features that helped them solve problems or made their daily work easier. And you can do the same if you are feeling motivated one day.

    [–] Luma@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    TTY is short for Teletypewriter. Basically it is the terminal that you see if you don't boot into a graphical environment. You can access the TTY from anywhere by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1-7 (will throw you into tty 1,2,...7, depending on which F key you pressed) You can switch between TTYs either by pressing CTRL+ALT+,F? again, where the F-key determins on which TTY you will land, or by using CTRL+ALT+arrow keys to go back and forth one at a time.

    The TTY is a terminal so you can do stuff like run commands here. If your graphical environment is broken, you will probably end up here and can often fix the problem.

    [–] Focal@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Oooh! I see, thank you!

    Yesterday, I tried booting into Wayland on Linux Mint, and I got NOTHING.

    I rebooted and got nothing again. I tried the Ctrl+alt+F(x) key combo, but that didn't work either. From your explanation, it sounds like I should've been able to at least get a terminal for that, but it didn't seem to work. Could that be because graphically, it WAS displaying something after all?

    Ended up unplugging the screens from the GPU and tried plugging it straight into the mobo instead, and it ended up working after all.

    [–] Luma@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Hmm... What does nothing mean exactly? Did your monitor turn on during boot? If so, did it turn off again at some point or did it display a completely black image?

    Since the mobo connection worked (which usually uses the integrated GPU chip on your CPU as far as I know), maybe it was an issue with your gpu? Or the connector or something?

    I once had a broken setup where got stuck on a black screen, unable to switch to a tty. If I started spamming CTRL+ALT+Fsomething right after Grub was done, I managed to escape the black screen before it appeared, maybe you could try spamming the key combo early on and see if that opens a tty for you. If that is the case then you can be pretty certain that the problem is related to your desktop environment.

    [–] Focal@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Alright, I've managed to open the TTY when trying to boot into Mint(wayland). You were right! It's probably an issue with my nvidia drivers. I'll see what I can do. Thanks

    [–] Luma@feddit.org 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

    Nice! Since your installation is showing similar symptoms to my installation when I updated my nvidia drivers a while ago, I'm just gonna tell you how I fixed my issue on my computer, and maybe it's gonna work for you too. If you want, you can try this:

    Boot your PC. After your Motherboard is done showing its logo or whatever it shows, you should see grub. If you press 'e' before grub proceeds to boot into linux, you will be thrown into a simple editor that will let you temporarily change what grub boots. There is a line with the kernel image and arguments, it probably starts with 'linux'. Go to the end of the line (line might span multiple rows, so end of line might be on the next row) and add this:

    nvidia_drm.fbdev=0

    Then press F10 to boot. That's it.

    This fixed the issue for me. If it will fix the issue for you as well, you can consider adding it to your kernel parameters permanently or making sure the nvidia kernel module gets the parameter by other means.

    Hope this helps!

    [–] Focal@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago

    Interesting. I'll see if I can figure something out.

    Answering your question, it booted to a black screen. The screen was "on", it wasn't complaining about not recognising a signal or anything, so SOMETHING must've transmitted. I'll try spamming some keys to see if I get a reaction. Thanks for the tip

    [–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I unironically keep a tiny linux mint boot usb key on my keychain.

    When I feel bad about myself, I remember that I have that on my keychain, and I think I can't be that much of a failure because that's pretty cool.

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

    Id do the same thing! I JB welded a USB stick on my conceal carry so when I screw up my boot loader I can sigh and whip out my gun and put it in my computer.

    Unrelated, I'm banned from public libraries statewide.

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    [–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    I've been using linux since last December and I haven't majorly broken anything. Am I doing Linux wrong?

    [–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    You're certainly doing Linux! I've only had one bad break, but i had a backup (if you mess with f-stab, save a copy it before you do anything)

    [–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

    I guess I take that back, there was 1 time that I did mess up fstab and had to boot live and fix it. But that wasn't too bad.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago

    You are. You are supposed pretend, everything you know on Windows should immediately transfer to Linux. Try to do techie things on Linux the Windows way; borking your system. Finally claim Linux isn't ready for the average user, despite not using Linux like an average user would.

    [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 21 points 22 hours ago

    No, people like to pretend that using linux is hard for some reason.

    It's not 2003 anymore.

    [–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    You know for a bunch of tech-savvy people you all seem to fuck up your installs a lot.

    Linux can be booted from a USB drive, Windows is deliberately designed to be easy to install and takes less than an hour, and nobody's installing MacOS anyway.

    I reckon it's because you can't resist tinkering and never READING THE INSTRUCTIONS

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 18 hours ago

    Windows is such a pain to install though. It won't work with some of the tools used to make a bootable usb stick. It takes forever to install and then you still have to set up a bunch of drivers. And then you have to install a ton of software by hunting for exe files online. Not to mention the dance you need to do to even be allowed to install it offline, without using a Microsoft account.

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