It's called demoralization.
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To me there's a difference between "politics" and taking about a specific topic and concern.
unfortunatly most people that I know that want to "talk politics" always have an agenda and motive. These individuals are never concerned about learning and broadening the topic but "winning" and their agenda.
Edit: F any trumper out there too.
unfortunatly most people that I know that want to “talk politics” always have an agenda and motive. These individuals are never concerned about learning and broadening the topic but “winning” and their agenda.
This is why my reaction to these people irl is always, "I don't like talking about politics." Which, a quick look at my comment history would tell anyone, is absolutely ridiculous lol.
You can usually tell which people are actually interested in discussion, and which have an (usually right wing) agenda to push.
I mean, I do have an agenda, that's kinda the point. My agenda is to make life better (= more equal, more inclusive, etc) for everyone
Reminds me of a time I was arguing with a friend in a pub. He didn't vote and thought it was pointless etc. I was saying:
Me: "Have you been to recently?"
Him: "Yeah"
Me: "Have you noticed a the amount of homeless people?"
Him: "Yeah, it's getting really bad now isn't it"
Me: ...
Him: "What's that got to do with the government?"
At this point, a random woman leaned in to comment.
"You know, I agree with your friend. HE shouldn't vote."
I work for my county, I have at least one coworker who is proud that she's never voted and doesn't care about politics
We work for the government, dumbass! That's basically saying "no, I don't want my opinion to be heard on who my boss is" when the options are often a person who wants to give us raises, better benefits, etc. and a person who wants to cut all of that.
It's probably for the best though, because when she does express a political opinion it's over the stupidest fucking shit. She supported Trump due to some comments he made about funding IVF treatments, while she's a polyamorous, wiccan divorcee with several health issues who doesn't have and as far as I'm aware doesn't want children. Yes, the republican party with their "traditional christian family values" schtick, who are constantly trying to gut all things related to medical care are totally the party that is going to look out for people like you, and totally worth supporting because you have some vague notions about wanting people to be able to have babies.
I on the team of this woman when it comes to quite a few people
"Ignored politics, eh? I'm sorry, but by this point the only solution to all of your problems is going to require that you fight a cop."
If you live in society with other humans, politics will involve you because it literally means things that concern everyone. People not wanting anything to do with it just means democracy isn't working.
democracy isn’t working
Nailed it.
You don't have to be "into politics" to hate the state of current situations. We can all feel left behind when infrastructure fails, society piles on, prices skyrocket and basic homes are out of reach financially.
i think the point they're making is that not being into politics prevents one from recognizing the root cause(s) for these problems and indirectly perpetuates them. which I think is by design honestly. it's in the best interest of capital owners that working people are not interested in politics.
That’s fine. Just don’t waste anyone else’s time complaining about that stuff if you’re not going to exert the minimal effort to do anything about it.
Forget doing anything, they can't even be bothered to learn what any of it means
You can get into politics minimally, you don't have to nerd out on it, but everyone should have a basic understanding of the political system.
It's like complaining that your house constantly catches fire but never bothering to realise that your extension cable monstrosity is causing the problem. A basic understanding of the electricity would have prevented the fire in the first place, and learning about electricity now would prevent future fires. But instead you just complain that your house catches fire every other week.
Exactly, I actually hate politics with a firey passion and would love nothing more than to be able to ignore it. But I hate the current state of affairs even more, so I am forced to pay attention.
It's like how I dislike wiping my ass, but I love having a clean asshole. Sometimes you have to do things you don't like to get the preferred outcome.
You don't have to be into "water" to hate the state of being thirsty. We can all feel parched and frustrated when we don't drink it, don't pay our water bill, or eat a cup of salt every day.
I'm a first-generation immigrant.
My parents are like: "Stop criticizing [Country we are from]"
Also parents: "I like the job here and the pay is good, back in [Country where we are from], the pay was bad and it took a long time before the payments arrive."
They currently work a Union job. Strike action is illegal in my former country.
And yet despite arguing with people and writing my representatives and voting every damn chance I get politics has not improved those things one iota and now I have an ulcer and disowned family members.
Also: Not funny, didn’t laugh.
Badum tssss
As social animals, virtually all things humans do or make is in some sense political.
When your choices are Democrat or Republican, it makes sense.
I know you won't accept this. But I want to say it anyway, on the off chance that it lights some light bulb in your brain.
Not seeing a difference between Democrat and Republican is a privilege. It means that you are equally affected by both of their policies. Not everyone has that luxury.
If you could spend just 5 minutes considering those who are negatively impacted more by one of those parties, it should hopefully be clear that not voting hurts those people.
Does the US really not have any other political parties? Is there some sort of rule that says that there can only be two political parties.
I don't understand how there can be so much dissatisfaction with the current options, and that dissatisfaction has existed for so long, and yet there are been no other parties formed to take advantage of that displeasure and offer themselves as an alternative.
Is there some sort of rule that says that there can only be two political parties.
No, but I think the issue lies with their system of government. As a presidential republic they don't have parliamentary government where parties enter coalitions to form the executive, so smaller parties have no good way to get established and share executive power and responsibility while growing.
Couple that with the voting system which also favours the trend to only two parties, and there you have the mess.
PS: They have the Green Party and the Libertarian Party, but they remain at the fringe and largely irrelevant. No seats for either of them.
It's basically a mathematical consequence of First Past the Post voting system. Until we get Ranked Choice Voting or similar, we will always only have the 2 parties. And since we need at least one of those parties to support a new voting system, I'm not holding my breath to see a sweeping change there. Happily, a couple states have embraced Ranked Choice Voting, so maybe a change can occur in time.
Does the US really not have any other political parties?
We do, but they've been institutionally ostracized since the 90's, and very few people vote for them. The two ruling parties have the backing of the billionaire class and the national news media, so likely many aren't even aware of other options to begin with.
It takes time to grow a new party. With first past the post voting there is no time to do that in. Since any new party will take voters from the party you allign more with and guarantee the party you align less with wins. And none of the 2 major parties are interested in changing to a system that would give themselfs less power. Those poor people over there are stuck with psycopatic fasistic party that is afraid of everything and everyone, and a megalomanic ignorant party that degrades into in-fighting any time they have any power.
Technically we can have any number of political parties and do. I believe I had candidates representing five parties running for my state’s auditor this last time.
However various conditions have always prevented other parties from building a competitive national presence. Things like name recognition and the vast amount of money spent in a typical election is very difficult for a new party. On the occasion when someone has reached the legislature, you can’t really do anything without a party behind you, so it’s tough to make an impact. People complain about the voting system, but it just means there’s no second place: each of the two will win different areas but very tough for a third party to break in since there’s no second place or third place.