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[–] bearstronaut@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Comparing him to Tony Stark and Thanos is giving him too much credit. He's more like the scammer aliens from Futurama

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you get into the actual comic books, you'll find out that Tony Stark is regularly portrayed as a sex pest, a substance abuser, and an outspoken fascist.

But, unlike the real Elon Musk, I don't believe he's ever been written as "full of pee". Incidentally, ketamine abuse does result in bladder ulcers that leak urine into your body until you are quite literally poisoning yourself with your own urine.

Just something to think about.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

how fast is this poisoning process because it's taking some sweet fucking time right now

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Sexually harassing his employees hit the headlines in 2016; rumours before that. Inserting himself into the Thai cave rescue and the "pedo guy" slander was 2018. Hyperloop was 2013. No Lidar on Tesla. If you've been paying attention he's been outing himself for a long time.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.

It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.

It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.

I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.

I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.

Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.

I wasn't aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When did his stupid submarine thing happen? I think that was the start of the public meltdown

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the "Fishy and possible scam artist" category.

Musk hasn't really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be "I'm a member of the Fascist elite" crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I remember in the very early days not getting the full 'hype' of "MUSK IS SO SMART", but I enjoyed him as a "This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That's neat."

His PR guys must've done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the 'pedo guy' incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago


Here's the Blue MAGA hindsight.
And this gets deleted by the mods here for 'no politics'.
As if the post itself isn't.
Hypocrites

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah, he was always an idiot, but I remember reading a super interesting article about how he accidentally radicalized himself when he changed X's algorithm. He tweaked it to be far right, and radicalized himself because he's one of the most active users on the platform. FAFO.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

The way he removed the original founders of Tesla and have himself the title of founder says otherwise, he was never a nice human being.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He never was not a villain.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Maybe. But he was seen as a competent person. I remember when SpaceX started testing the "reusable" rockets that landed themselves. He was a lot more "popular" back then

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Never fell for this BS. Fuck elmo and fuck ironman too. No platform for fascism.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

He's not that competent, in either incarnation.

[–] bizza@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

I hate to break it to the people 10 years ago, but Musk has always been a horrible person

[–] Therobohour@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

No on is looking at elon like that,and no one ever did

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

These days he looks more like this:

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm man enough to admit that I thought he was the closest thing we had to Tony Stark even though I knew at the time he wasn't really that close to Tony Stark, and now I know just how wrong I was. Damn.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Round Iron Man 2 coming out and his cameo, I kinda felt that way too. Some 2-4 years later that feeling was entirely gone.

Was more or less aware of who he was until the cave incident where all his worse tendencies came to light with enough reach to get to me.

Then some research later, I was aware of tech bros and their ilk.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Back then he had a PR team. He probably fired them because he started buying their lies.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Relax, Thanos and Iron man had real power.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

BLUE MAGA MODS DELETE THIS FOR RULE 2!!!

LOL

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I always saw Musk as a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing.

[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He transformed a car into space garbage for publicity in 2015.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah I remember watching that and thinking "what kind of absolute dummy thinks this is cool?"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

He fired the public image prople because he thougth he can do it better.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanos is not much of a tweaker though.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Neither is musk. Ketamine is a depressant, not a stimulant.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

But Thanks did nothing wrong, he was the good guy in that story. Misunderstood, but he had the right idea.

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