“We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!
I am honestly so revolted.
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2025
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I'm curious to see what Iran would have become in the next 5 years had this shit not occurred. It had the potential of becoming another regime or possibly a democracy again. Hard to say where it was going.
Well, that's been the litemotiv of the last century on the area, support a slightly less evil genocidal asshole against another genocidal asshole.
What status quo? They are complicit
The status quo is Western dominance and power projection.
Ukraine had nukes and gave them up. They were invaded.
Iraq gave up their WMD program after the first Gulf War. They were invaded again.
Iran definitely had a nuclear program, but doesn't appear to be pursuing it anymore. They're getting attacked and quite possibly will get invaded.
South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.
The Great Powers, particularly the United States but also Russia, have shown that your country should just keep going once you start. Chances are, you'll get invaded, anyway.
This is not the way towards anti-proliferation.
South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.
How do nukes help South Africa? They don't have rockets. What do they threaten to bomb that is a deterrent?
But genocide against Palestinians is a-OK.
What does the "G" in G7 stand for? Gaslighting? Genocide? Grift? Maybe there are 7 Gs.
"Iran is two weeks away from nuclear capability" - Netanyahu: 2012, 2015, 2018, 2023, 2025
Decided bunch of criminals who brainwashed everyone with existence of the nukes. Legalize recreational nukes. Lol
China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can't be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.
it also helps if your air defense network doesn't collapse immediately because it turns out that in order to guard these nukes you need also regular capable conventional military
I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
I'd add:
- Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth
And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.
I agree with all of your past tense takes. The future remains to be determined. We might all be flattened at this rate.
My exact thoughts
Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening
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Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.
The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.
Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.
The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.
It's a deep sarcasm that Western oil companies destabilized the Iranian monarchy, that * shockingly* wanted a piece of the pie in such a way it paved the way for islamist extremists to gain power.
Ian used to be pretty liberal and western minded, however westen meddling caused this extreme government.
But God forbid they get the means to (to use the Israeli turn off phrase) 'defend' itself, that would be horrendous.
Yes, yes, we all know Iran used to be liberal a very long time ago.
That ship has sailed, and the current regime isn't great, to say the very least.
Nuclear bombs would not be used to defend Iran. They would be used to defend Khamenei. In the same way that nukes are for defending that shit stain in Israel and not Israel.
Ik no fan of the current regime, I think both Israel and Iran would benefit from a regime change. There's nothing more moral on the Israeli side to explain them deserving nukes over anyone in that region.
But the hypocrisy is that the Western world directly caused this shit.
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nobody should have nuclear weapons.
Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the scientists working on the Manhattan project had all agreed it's too much and intentionally sabotage every test.
Well then we wouldn’t have nuclear power either
The first nuclear reactor was in 1942.
Well sure but if you can make a nuclear reactor you can make a nuclear bomb
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Jesus fucking Christ. Fuck all of these assholes.
Iran will have nukes. They don't have a choice. Not anymore. It's existentialism at this point. Israel has been trying to engineer a war against Iran for more than 30 years. All the while Iran has played along. IAEA inspectors and all that good shit. And it was all for nothing. Iran knows that now. So does everyone else.
If you're an adversary to the US and its Imperial interests then its a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if or how closely you follow their rules. They will come for you in time.
Lol
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Why? If the West will allow Israel to live stream a genocide and both political parties in the US stick their fingers in their ears and make sounds like children, Iran has no choice but to pursue a nuke to defend itself.
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