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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago

Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You've been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I'm not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone's sanity.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We've had first impeachment, yes. But what about second impeachment?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

We also had that! What about third impeachment?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Not sure who still isn't getting this.

There is a literal American traitor in the Oval Office. One who has flagrantly violated the law, and specifically the Constitution, numerous times.

Impeachment is meaningless, as we've witnessed multiple times in American history. Impeachment is an acceptable process if the violation is minimal and not repeated. It's a slap on the wrist. A warning.

We are WAY beyond a symbolic slap on the wrist with no real repercussions. Impeachment is not a valid tool to use in a situation like this. At minimum, we are at the point where there needs to be massive protests like we just saw, repeatedly, until he is removed from office. If that fails, then there needs to be a general strike until he's removed. If that fails, then he needs to be removed from office by force.

If we can't manage these things, we will continue seeing the degradation of our freedoms, the collapse of our economy, the destruction of our founding document, signaling the end of our democracy, and the hole we'll end up finding ourselves in will be one we won't see this country come out of for the remainder of our lives.

It is time to remove this traitor and his treasonous enablers from their positions of power.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Didn't they dangle an "impeachment" so many times the last time it literally stopped meaning anything? I see thru this game and I ain't buying it.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 8 points 23 hours ago

They had a better chance of impeaching him for Jan 6th for actual insurrection than they do this time. Why? Because there are so many legal loop holes with the War Time Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of The Use of Military Force. These loopholes were used by both Bush Jr. and Obama for various justifications for air strikes so the precedent is already there. Don't get your hopes up and chalk up it up political theater. It's also a distraction from what's going on. Thanks again to Twatter being that megaphone of "HEY LOOK OVER HERE!"

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

We haven't declared war since WW2. Everything has been AUMF, which can be done within 60 days retroactively. As always, the government is checks and balances, so if Congress refuses to exercise its powers and let the executive do whatever, it's a moot point.

I think it'd only lead to impeachment if Congress wants us gone within 60 days and Trump refuses, continues without an AUMF, and then Congress actually had the balls to push back at that point.

But if someone is more familiar with the legal processes involved here, please do correct me or add to this.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It worked so well the first two times. Why not try again?

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Third times a charm?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

This will totally work.

And yes, I know its bait.

[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

If we have to rely on the house or senate to impeach him, that’s not going to happen.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 16 points 1 day ago
[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

If that dude knew how to fucking aim

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean like how he was impeached in his first term in office and nothing changed?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both impeachments were acquitted by the Senate after the House passed them.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Point taken, but I don't see it going any differently this time around.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Nope. Its theater.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Donny will never get out of this one!!!

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That ship has sailed decades ago. The US hasn't been officially at war since 1945, and the congress has for all intents and purposes gave up on that power.

[–] falynns@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The speed Congress gave up their constitutional powers to avoid repurcusions for having opinions and voting for them is crazy. But I guess being able to give yourself a raise every year for doing nothing is tempting.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 165 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Which the Democrats should absolutely fucking do regardless of whether The Republicans will vote to convict, which of course they won’t, but the point is, we can’t just sit back and do nothing. We have to at least show that we’re willing to take the steps that are necessary to dissent.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, you can only be impeached for getting a beej (although that was creepy af from an intern) or wearing a tan suit.

Starting wars just won't do it.

Unfortunately, I don't know if anyone would be willing to give Trump a BJ, and if they did, they certainly wouldn't admit it in court.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oop, that's another impeachable offense in the pile.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

100 impeachable offenses you must try before you die

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yep just add it to the list

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump has already been impeached.

Twice.

The last time he was president.

It doesn't matter anymore.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (8 children)

And became a felon after that.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The cop at the protest yawns, unslings his 40mm LMT™ weapon, loads another rubber bullet into it, looks around the crowd for another reporter, aims, and shoots her in the head.

Idealistic youngling: "Wow, that cop just shot a woman in the head with a rubber bullet, he could totally be charged for that!"

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[–] BubbaGumpsBackLumps@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah lets impeach the already twice impeached president, surely third times the charm... right guys ?

/s

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago

I see two outcomes:

  • Congress introduces articles
  • Impeached, but fails ratification in senate

or

  • Congress introduces articles
  • Some terrible tragedy befalls us or Israel
  • Articles fail and congress backs the war full-throated

There is no version of this that ends in removal, and even impeachment wouldn't be anything more than performative outrage.

The majority of sitting representatives have been waiting for an acceptable excuse to bomb Iran for decades. The only objection any of them have is doing so without manufacturing consent from voters first, but we've already seen how this plays out with Afghanistan. They'll drum up dubious evidence of WMD's and launch their entry, and then spend 20 years trying to 'get out' while securing Iran's material resources on the way.

The only difference this time is that Iran has almost 5x the population and 100x the GDP of Afghanistan in 2001, plus an actual organized military base with proper advanced weapons manufacturing. There's a reason we've waited this long to actually do this, and it isn't because we were busy doing other things. It's because this isn't a war we can win without pulling everyone else into it (or at the very least without isolating them from global trading partners).

It's not a morbid joke to call this a WWIII softlaunch.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish I still lived in the fantasy world where this was plausible.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The corruption of our nation is absolute.

The president is a Nazi.

Thr people working for him are Nazis.

They are carrying out a Nazi agenda.

They are illegally starting wars illegally kidnapping Americans and illegally using our own armed forces against us.

The time for resistance is passed.

It’s time for survival.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. No this is about the time for resistance. We shouldn't just skip that one

[–] witten@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. I'm so tired of this doomer "we've tried nothing and it hasn't worked" stance on the Trump regime. RESIST, people!

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

In 2001 when The US authorized use of force on Al-Qaeda that, along with The 1973 war powers resolution gave the president (as in the position of president, not just Bush) unlimited ability to bomb anyone loosely associated with Al-Qaeda in perpetuity.

It's what allowed Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and then Biden, and now Trump again, to use the military as they see fit for performing military operations against basically any state and group in the middle east.

This is sadly likely the least impeachable thing he's done in office.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Who cares? He was inoeached before already and it literally did NOTHING

Wake me up when this bullshit is actually over, all this "oohh, THIS will end him for sure!" every week is tiring

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