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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 97 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

World history without the Arabs, Mongols, Ottomans, imperial Japan? Even from an eurocentristic point of view that's too reductive.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Damned Humans, they ruined Humanity!”

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Damned Golgafrinchans, they ruined earth!"

[–] mienshao@lemm.ee 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Seriously. Tell me you’re a white american without telling me you’re a white american 🤣

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The obsession about skin color in general gave it away.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago
[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interestingly eurocentrists often refer to Alexander the Great as taking over "the world" even though he only took over Europe and the Middle East (which is what they saw as "the world" at the time). His troops abandoned him almost immediately upon entering what is now modern day Punjab (Pakistan/India).

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't even take over much of Europe (just Greece), so that's a weird stance for modern-day eurocentrists, anyway.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, modern day eurocentrists are weird people.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ghengas Khan, the whitest man in history

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well of course, they wouldn't have picked John Wayne to play him otherwise.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago

Kahn of the radiation desert.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, this is giving of some serious "i have never read a book in my life"-energy.

Did the world start 300 years ago?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

Even then - during WW2, imperial Japan was committing atrocities on millions of victims. Sure they eventually lost against 'white people', but I don't think that's much comfort to the millions of Chinese people who were killed by the Japanese.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Europeans figuring out how to navigate the deep sea before others starts centuries before then.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Ah yes. The history of the world certainly started with Europe.

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

When home is relatively cold and only borderline habitable, taking your chances with going out to sea is an understandable instinct.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Polynesians were literal millenia ahead of even early European seafarers (I.e. Vikings).

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i mean, world history as of ~500-600 years ago, but yea

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Man, Hutus and Tutsis are going to freak out with this one haha

Also Indians

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hutus and Tutsis

Look up who introduced those identities

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

American leftists and their guilt complex were once funny, but now shit is getting stale.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Half of Disney movies are about kids going against this very parental advice, getting said parents robbed/hurt/killed, and getting rewarded in the process

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait, if Aztecs thought white people are gods (unless it's a "Television would never lie" moment), do we have records of how they treated albinos born in their countries?

It wasn't just pale skin. Honestly look at a picture of a Spaniard, and then look at a picture of a Mesoamerican. It's not exactly night and day, is it?

"The Spanish showed up and the natives thought they were gods." So, the natives had myths and folklore about their gods going away across the sea and would someday come back from across the sea. And then one day these big boats show up and what wades ashore but a man with strangely pale skin and strange colored eyes and a big bushy beard wearing metal armor and carrying metal weapons riding some kind of big hoofed animal. He's speaking a weird language you don't understand and HOLY SHIT did he just shoot thunder from that metal stick? Something like eighteen things you haven't seen before just happened.

What do you think was their first hypothesis?

How long do you think it took for them to test that hypothesis?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The Aztecs did not view the white men as gods. Depictions of Quetzalcoatl that make him look like a white man/the claim that they confused Cortes for him is pseudohistory based on Spanish depictions and lies.

Here’s an interesting thing I found on ancient Mexican albinism.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Glad you have a resource to refute this colonial era drivel / brain rot.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It’s something that Frank Dibble talked about in the Rogan debate. (The entire situation was a shitshow, but I learned a lot from listening to him dribble Hancock around like a basketball, and Professor Dave/Miniminutemen’s coverage of it)

Aztec and Mayan history tends to attract a lot of bullshit (and tend to be treated as interchangeable 😔). The Spaniards burned so much of pre Colombian primary texts that most information is filtered through people who wanted to portray those people as stupid primitive murderous psychopaths to justify their own primitive murderous psychopathy.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ooh, nice find!

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

The veneration was severely overblown. They heeded them as gods in the same way that I heeded my abusive father as a god. And albinos probably just kinda died to the Central American UV. They might have been perceived as cursed.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 5 points 3 weeks ago

Turns out you can't simplify world history to one sentence without people getting big mad.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Where my Clovis people at?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Recent world history, at least.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not even that. Or are you one of those people blaming the Yemen civil war on white people?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bruh, it's a single sentence, not an in-depth examination of all geopolitics for the past 500 years.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's absolutely fair. But it's single sentence that can be proven incorrect by a single example and that's what I just did.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If I casually say "Money is the root of all evil", and you respond with an example of an evil deed that was committed for reasons other than money, have you:

A. Disproven me with FACTS and LOGIC

OR

B. Disputed the literal interpretation of something that was not meant literally or absolutely in the first place

[–] XM34@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then what exactly am I to take it as? What level of argument is this? "Na ah, you can't disagree with me, because I was just using a commin saying and don't want people to actually take my words at face value"?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

What level of argument is this?

... it's not, for one.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not even that. No one said "White men are the instigator of all violence in history".

[–] XM34@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know what meme you've been seeing, but no... That's pretty much the message this meme tries to make.

[–] SomeKindaName@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

You've taken it to absurdum.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

they sound american

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone knows the Comanches were nothing but peace loving kindness and happy joy.

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