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Movies can be fun bad tbh. They can have cheap budgets, horribly low quality CGI, but still be a fun watch.

Dude just watch the room and you will get it

Did u have fun is one part of good. So is did it make u think deeply about something, was it pretty, was the dialogue good, did it give u a new perspective, did it make u feel something. Etc etc

I get you bro

Good movie: the one you enjoy

Bad movie: the one you don't

Simple as that, my metric of scoring isn't good or bad, it's whether i enjoy it or whether it annoy me. I pick what i watch and will go through review and score so most of the time i know i gonna enjoy it, but sometime an outlier will pops up. I'm still not over how annoyed i am for 28 Weeks Later.

I mean hey, if you have low standards, and you're completely honest about it, nothing wrong with that... and it also puts the onus on the people with higher standards to actually explain why they do or do not like any given movie, easier to suss out the people who don't actually have consistent standards, but instead just have an amalgamation of their favorite influencers opinions.

Win win win as I see it. I'm a bit of a movie snob, and I can explain why I do or don't like a movie...

But I am also self-aware enough to realize that other people have other standards, and 90% of the time, if there isn't some utterly reprehnsible trope or caricature or very very misleading depiction of real events in a 'based on a true story' type thing... eh, whatever, we have different tastes, wanna get pizza?

I did a Final Destination marathon recently to prep for Bloodlines.
While all the movies have their flaws and weaknesses, FD4 was garbage. Even as a easy to please person I couldn't handle it.

Genuinely terrible, I am shocked they wanted it to be the last one in the franchise, to the point they called it "The Final Destination"

Sounds like 10% of the time you did not have fun watching a movie. That's a bad movie.

Sometimes, it's more important that you enjoy the thing than the thing being objectively good. There is merit to objectively analyzing things, and there can be enjoyment found in doing so. There is also merit to just enjoying the thing you like. Both are valid.

Must be nice to be able to just completely switch off your brain like that.

I think the only movie rating a entirely agreed with was Thor: Ragnarok being awesome and Thor: love and thunder sucking ass.

Also the wakanda cat man movie was AWESOME.

Me enjoying a movie does in no way exclude it from being a bad movie.

Seeing as I do enjoy watching bad movies. Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.

I hate going into a movie with expectations. That’s the quickest way to end up hating it. Even if I might be a fan and am looking forward to a particular film’s release. It’s far easier just to go in to a film with few expectations. Things that make a movie “bad” for me are: bad acting, bad writing, bad effects, or bad plot contrivances. IOW, something so egregious it pulls me out of enjoying what I’m watching and draws my attention to it.

For example - the new Star Wars films. They were fine for a cast of relative unknowns. Yeah, they had some heavy handed writing in spots that was bad, the worst being the pointless casino and kid scenes in the last one. But regardless it was fun. The previous three otoh had a stellar cast yet some of the worst wooden acting, writing, and the abuse of digital SFX was offensive.

(Best SW film made was Rogue One, IMO, tied with ANH because that introduced us to the franchise and had no baggage.)

Of course this is all movie dependent. Spoofs and the like or comedy are entirely different vs something like a drama. One won’t be held to a high standard, the other will need it to keep the audience engaged.

i can enjoy a movie i think is objectively bad and vice versa.

Honestly, that is what matters. There's something to be said about "cinema" versus "movies" lol, not everything needs to have mass appeal to be good, but I think a lot of people rate things high even when they hate it and that's bullshit.

Enjoying a movie, having fun watching it, is not an indication of its quality. It is acceptable to enjoy bad movies, nothing wrong with that, I've watched plenty of movies I consider as bad but still had fun and a nice time watching them.

Defining the quality of a movie by the enjoyment you had is like defining the quality of a painting by how realistic it is. A painting might be good even if it is surreal, unrealistic or abstract, and a realistic painting might be crap, so the quality of the painting is not tied to simply how realistic it is. The same way there are movies that are fun and enjoyable but not "good", and there are movies that bore most people and are a master piece.

While with a painting defining the quality is simpler (simpler yes, but not simple) as it is the creation of one person normally, for movies it gets incredibly complex as there's so much to measure and its the work of so many people; the script, the acting, the photography, the score, the directing, the stunts, makeup and dressing, FX, ... There's a lot that can be good and a lot that can be bad in the same movie.

At least that has always been my perspective, I have no issues admitting to not liking something despite how good it was, and loving something that I knew was not good. Some examples that come to mind: I love the matrix movies, love watching them, yes, in plural, that doesn't mean the second and third are good. It feels like there were too many issues in them to make them good, but I still had a good time watching them. On the other hand, I feel like a movie like 2001 is of unquestionable quality, yet I always feel somewhat bored watching it and would rather do something else.

Imo most movies are kind of bad and I usually regret watching them.

But I kinda feel like this is because I can easily think of other things I would have had more fun spending that time on. So it's a tangible loss to me.

FWIW I keep watching movies because I have seen a few that makes the pursuit worth it.

Whether you had fun and the quality of the movie are not entirely related.

Good movies are self-aware. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece of acting and cinematography, or have the best effects, or the best writing. But they have to know what they are. I don't mean breaking the fourth wall or self-deprecating humor. More like understanding their limits.

The people making Sharknado knew they were doing a campy action film (series) with sharks in tornadoes. Fun Movie. Would watch again.

M. Night Shyamalan is a great writer and director, but a lot of his films have a feeling of over-dramatized self-importance, where it seems like he really wants you to know how clever he is. So they get panned.

Chrisopher Nolan (I think) puts similar importance on symbols and archetypes with a dramatic and artistic style, but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.

Somebody needs to introduce Thomas here to MST3K. There is no better teacher than experience.