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[-] gun@lemmy.ml 86 points 11 months ago

Trick question, washing machines come in many different genders:

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 9 points 11 months ago

I thought pans came in many different genders

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 70 points 11 months ago
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[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago

No one who speaks German could be an evil man.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 64 points 11 months ago

If you get the wrong one just accuse the examiner of being transphobic.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

This is my go to response when people are trying to claim that English is hard... Well at least I don't have to remember what gender has randomly been assigned to every noun I want to use.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago

No, instead you have to learn to read and spell in a system that often sounds quite different to what is written. I want to read a book that's never been read. I want to live a life alive at a live show. Anything ending in ~ough which has something like 6 or 8 different sounds. I'm a native speaker trying to work with my wife on English (we speak Japanese at home). It's insane for any reading/spelling.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you through laughing at the English kneading dough in a trough, though?

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

As soon as I stop hiccoughing and cut this bough

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah, unlike French where 2/3 of each word is silent.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 15 points 11 months ago

I rarely hear people saying English is hard, except for the pronunciation.

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[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

And then, when you're learning French, you have to watch out for words that have a different gender than in German.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

la lune - der Mond

le soleil - die Sonne

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[-] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 30 points 11 months ago

Have you tried asking the washing machine for its preferred pronouns?

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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Easy. Since it's the womans' job to do laundry, the washing machine is also female ^/s^

[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 8 points 11 months ago

So you mean la bite is ...

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[-] Hailstorm8440@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

Me in my mandarin class not having to conjugate, add pronouns, use words like the and to, and not having words more than 4 syllables. But having to learn 10,000 + characters

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

Female in Russian, because the word machine/машина ends with A, and so any machine, from tattoo gun to steam engine is female gendered. I always thought French and German worked in somewhat similar manner?

[-] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It works like that in French until you use a different word for the machine.

"Mon ordinateur est une bonne machine". In a single sentence my computer was described with words both male and female.

It's just vocabulary and grammar, not the deep essence or identity of things or people.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

it is in German too.

It is die Waschmaschine. and a Steam Engine ist die Dampfmaschine. And it is a very straight foreard naming convention. Just add what kind of machine it is to the front of the noun.

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[-] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

In Spanish it even depends on which dialect you're speaking.

In some places it's "la lavadora" (she/her), and in other places it's "el lavarropas" (he/him).

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[-] bouh@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

This one is funny actually! You can say une machine à laver, or un lave linge. :D

[-] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

Never in my life did I hear the term lave linge

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Really? I've seen it at least twice in the last minute.

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[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago

How aggregious is misgendering items in other languages? I assume it's no big deal and may not even be worth correcting most of the time?

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago

In German, they sometimes add the gender into the word. Like if you hire a few "Stripper" in German, they will be all male, while "Stripperinnen" would be all female and there is no generally accepted way if you want a mix or non-binaries, you'd have to describe it. This can lead to quite a lot of confusion, especially with words derived from English like this.

So what I'm saying is, if you use the English word and misgender, it can be a big deal. Like 7 or 8 inches big, on some occasions.

[-] JamesBean@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

The example you used involved humans. They were asking about items.

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[-] Linnce@beehaw.org 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It sounds very weird and you know immediately it's a foreigner speaking. When you are fluent the genders just come naturally, I don't think I've ever seen a native making a mistake like that, maybe children.

I wouldn't correct anyone unless they want to learn though, the noun itself is more important and it carries the meaning across.

This is for Brazilian Portuguese at least.

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[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

It’s probably makes sense once explained properly but as an outsider to gendered languages in general it feels like the stupidest archaic idea ever lol.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago

Grammatical gender has nothing to do with sexual gender. It is simply the expression on how words are declined in different cases.

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[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

End-syllables help a long way:

For example the often cited neutral: girl/Mädchen is a diminutive. So everything with -chen or -lein becomes neutral and therefore: das.

(Brötchen, Männlein, Häuschen, Fräulein)

https://mein-deutschbuch.de/genusbestimmung.html#nachsilben

As a bonus: in plural everything is "die" so just formulate everything in plural and you are always right.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 9 points 11 months ago

Une machine, putain !

Noticed that space after putain ? When the sign has two things, like an exclamation mark or a colon, you put the space in between. Otherwise not !

Sorry for the the frenchification by using the "espace insécable" in the English text.

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