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1. Type of key?

The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.

I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?

2. How to remove broken part from lock?

Location: Door between bedroom and garden.

Situation:

  • Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.

  • I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.

  • Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.

A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.

I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.

If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.

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[–] liquefy4931@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Locksmith here. In a pinch, I've ground the back of a jigsaw blade down, leaving just the teeth on the blade (short enough to fit above the key). Jigsaw blades, especially those intended for metal, are hardened and will easily bite into just about any key, giving enough leverage to pull out the broken piece.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 4 points 6 hours ago

I've had luck melting a hot glue stick and pressing it on the head, letting it cool, and pulling it out, but you would also be best replacing the lock since you can open the door

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I would remove it from the door, apply sewing machine oil and then slam it onto a surface until a part appears that I can grab with pliers.

I have never done this and it might not work but destroy your lock.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Main problem seems solved but I just want to point out that this is not a super secure or modern lock.

Very unlikely anyone will ever actually try picking the lock on your house, BUT if they did, this lock won't do an incredible amount to stop them.

[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There's a pretty good chance that you can get a bit of wire or a fine pick and push the key through from the other side, I'd be trying that first.

Aside from that the next easiest solution is likely to just disassemble the lock and replace the cylinder as others have suggested.

[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 2 points 8 hours ago

Also, remember to use a lot of lube (WD-40 would me my pick)

[–] beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

While an ignorant rober is trying his luck at trying to open your door a smart one is already gone with your stuff and the police already blasted your door open. I would just get a normal key.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This type of keyhole is generally harder to pick than a regular barded key. Well, obviously not when the key is stuck in the keyhole.

Source: I watch The Lockpicking Lawyer.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hot glue gun glue stick. Melt end, attach, wait a few, pull.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Very small, precision needle-nose pliers work as well, but there needs to at least be a very small part of the key-break to grab. If the key somehow snaps in a position that's even slightly recessed, I've used a tootpick and tiny dab of superglue (not enough to spread and touch the lock itself - be careful lol).

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I saw this on TikTok once /jk

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. I’ve also used a paper clip, straightened out with a very small bend at the end.

I’ve also used chewing gum, though you have to wait it for it to harden a little. Duct tape might work too.

You only have to get it to move out a tiny amount. Then you can get a pair of needle nose pliers on it and pull it out.

That particular key looks challenging though.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Tried a dab of super glue on a paper clip then held to the key?

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Not likely enough surface area for cyanoacrylate to do its magic, though one could try to glue the key pieces together and hope it holds long enough for a partial pull. Likely to just glue the broken piece in there by accident.

Hot glue is gooey and will grab the broken part.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 21 hours ago

I would have thought you'd struggle to get hot glue to bond sufficiently the metal or be able to get a small enough amount on a something thin enough quickly enough to get it to stick to the key end without getting all over the barrel.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unlock the door and remove those screws holding the latch in the door.

Once you’ve removed the lock you should be able to disassemble it and push the stuck key out or worst case, replace the lock cylinder.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This is the answer.

The only downside is you can see how stripped those screws are even in this photo. That'll be fun.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

Yep. Use a rubber band in the screw when trying to unscrew it to help with a bit extra grip and then never use those screws again either. Either that or use a Dremel to turn it into a flat head screw and remove them.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

On this type of latch (mortise) the third screw is often stripped (because it’s a set screw that holds the lock cylinder in place and often the notch in the cylinder is misaligned / on the wrong side) but _un_screwing it should be easy.

The cylinder itself, however, is usually finely threaded and can require a fair amount of torque to get started, especially without using the key for additional purchase.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dental pick, like the kind that your hygienist uses to give you PTSD should do the trick.

[–] Nimrod@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

OP’s description of trying to pull the key out when it broke, makes me think the key may also be bound/frozen in the lock. I don’t think you’re supposed to use wet lubricants in a lock, but they may need to use a penetrating lubricant (like wd-40) along with the dental pick.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An $8 dental kit has been a life saver in so many situations.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Or slightly more expensive, if legal in your area, are actual locksmith tools.

I have a pick set I busted out this morning to unlock a pad lock on our circuit breaker (outside for some stupid reason, locked because its a new development and we had construction workers turn the house off while me and the wife were the only people on our respective jobs working the shift remotely)

We need power to run desktops. A UPS is handy, but its a bandaid to shut down correctly until power is restored fully.

[–] InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't a functioning key extractor work better than a broken one?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago

I like the cut of your jib.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neat! Didn't know there was such a thing. Another poster suggested a dental pick kit, not as good but more versatile.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You can dental pick a lock, but can you lock pick a dentist?

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Dimple lock. The pins move sideways instead of up and down. Not familiar with the brand.

You could try and straighten a small fish hook to remove the broken key.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't you just replace the whole lock?

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

This. Some people don't realise how ridiculously easy it is to change a lock when you can open the door with a key.

  1. Put the working key into the lock

  2. Undo this screw

  1. Turn the key slightly back and forth whilst pulling the cylinder out until it starts to come out. Then just pull it all out.

  2. Mark which side was front and back

  3. Measure from the middle locking mechanism of the cylinder to the ends.

  4. Find a lock with the same lengths. It'll be like 60/40 (100mm total length).

6b. Optional: get one with a fixed turnkey on the inside.

  1. Replace lock by reverse.
[–] Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any time I've had a key stuck like this I've used something sharp and just stabbed it down into the top of the key and leveraged it against the lock itself. Keys are way softer than people think.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I’m pretty strong for being a middle aged woman (so not strong in general), and I can break a key in a lock relatively easily with just my hands.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Uh... can I have your number?

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I got a key out of a similar situation in the folks RV the other day using a small flat screw driver and a knife to pinch the key and pull it out...

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Superglue the key back together, let it set, and pull it out.

Be careful not to use too much glue and br sure it's set before you pull.

Alternatively, try needle nose pliers or a hook if you can get any purchase on the key remains.

They also sell extractors but the above suggestions will probably work.

If all else fails, call a locksmith.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

thanks david

[–] Mucki@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

I'd drill into the thickest part with a small drill, then tilt it and gently pull it out with the key.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Some superglue on the broken part of the key and reattach it, or alternatively superglue a few paper clips or other thin metal objects to the key in the door. Using more than one will spread out the force used to pull.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 20 hours ago
[–] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This looks like a similar setup to some security doors I've messed with.

Edit: what about using a unfolded paperclip and push from the other side. The plan I had when I started writing this probably won't work as accessing the key cylinder will only likely get access the keyhole.

Edit2 id also hit it with a spray from a can of WD-40 (lubricant) and hope that helps work things loose.

Below is probably useless but it was my train if thought initially.

They have a removable part so the locks can be rekeyed easily by a locksmith by replacing some pins on the inside to match the keys.

Edit 3 if removing fails and you need to replace a part, you probably could get away with just replacing the locking part and not the whole handle mechanism.

In the ones Ive used a screw on the door matches up holding the locking cylinder component. Probably the one just above the deadbolt.

Try unscrewing this to see if the cylinder the key is stuck in can be removed.

Go very carefully as I don't know what is actually holding the stack of pins which match your key and if these pins fall out, finding which go where will be very hard and very fiddly.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

WD-40 is not a lubricant, it can do it short term, but makes things worse long term.

WD-40 literally stands for Water Displacement - Formula 40.

Its to keep mechanical components hydrophobic so they don't rust or otherwise degrade due to the presence of water.

For locks and keyways, you want powdered graphite as a lubricant. I keep a small tube (puffer style) in my pick kit if needed.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A neodymium magnet could work, maybe even a fake one from Amazon

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 23 hours ago

Keys are brass, not magnetic