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I just got a new laptop today and when I saw the ssd it blew my mind. Most of my old drives are like the second from left and it's what I think of as a normal drive, buying a standard ssd still feels small to me. But look at that tiny thing to the right! It's the size of a postage stamp!

Assuming I managed to find the right specs (it is a Microscience hh-1050): The monster on the far left is from 1990, holds 40mb, read/write of 0.625mb/s, and weighs almost exactly 2kg. The baby on the far right I got in the mail today, holds 1tb, read/write of 5150mb/s, and weighs about 2.85 grams.

So we're looking at 25,000 times more storage, 8,240 times faster, and 1/700th the weight! And the one on the right is just 1tb, they make one that same model but 2tb. I can barely believe it exists even though I'm literally holding it in my hands.

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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 104 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And Apple be like. 128gb HDD or upgrade to a 512gb SSD for $600 extra or a 1tb nvme for $1000 extra

[–] warm@kbin.earth 70 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Their customers buy it, so they arent changing that

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[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lack of education is Apple's bread and butter.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

That’s Windows users, Apple at least has to make it difficult for users to install something else

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Apple livea on the notion of 'a fool and his money are soon parted' and can you blame them? They are one of, if not the, most profitable companies around. If it works why change it.

[–] nef@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

To their credit as of 4 years ago all their devices come with high-speed SSDs, the issue is they charge 5x market price for storage and RAM size upgrades.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would hold 1.66 copies of war and peace.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ASCII wasn't around then, so it would perhaps be stored in 5-bit ITA2, or 6/7-bit FIELDATA. So likely a 5/8 to 7/8 space savings (unless the numbers are for compressed War and Peace).

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could've just compressed it using 7zip. Text files compress really small!

/j

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A space ship descends and lands outside my door, and and a benevolent Alien pops out and hands me a 512 MB USB stick.

"I crafted this for your species, and made sure it's compatible with your hardware standards. It contains the sum total knowledge of all life in the universe and can be used to accelerate your species to the next plane of existence."

I thank him tearfully and he departs with a warm smile, ascending back up into the soon-to-be-knowable cosmos from when he came.

I plug the stick into my machine, and check out the directory. Inside are two files:

 105 MB   knowledge.tar.piidx
 328 KB   README.txt

I open up the readme file to learn more about the PIIDX file format so that I can uncompress the sum total knowledge of all existence. General gist:

  • Uses a compression algorithm with an infinite dictionary based on prime numbers
  • Uses a storage/retrieval algorithm based on the digits of Pi

Realise quickly that the file will never be opened in my lifetime

Once you have one copy on there it would be awfully wasteful to fill the rest up with a 0.66 copy though.

[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You could probably store more in a filing cabinet with paper

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, 1tb?

You're leaving impact on the table, I have plenty of 1tb micro SD cards.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Those drives typically have some pretty dreadful read/write speeds (for a computer). Maybe once SD Express is figured out we'll get fast and good Micro SD cards at a high capacity.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

And they crap out so quickly. I can't even count the number of SD cards I've had to throw in the trash. I don't think I've ever had a 2.5" or 3.5" drive completely crap out on me (though I have had bad SMART data indicative of a dying drive) and I have been running a media server with dozens of TBs for over a decade now.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

I mean, those work fine and are fast. You mean we'll get those for cheap.

In any case, the image is about physical dimensions, and SD cards are tiny! Considering we're comparing to a 40 MB mechanical drive, I'm gonna say the comparison is valid and they aren't even near the bottom of the specs table.

Of course people like it when ALL the specs get better in these things, but that's because people like simple things more than true things.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apples and oranges, though. The left two are hard drives, the right two are solid state drives (ie flash memory). They kind of serve the same purpose, but there is quite a big step in between 2 and 3. 2.5" HDDs also exist, though. Then again, so do 1TB MicroSD cards. And 2280 M.2 SSDs. But also huge tapes that are still in use for backup purposes.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There were even smaller hard drives. The iPod used a 1.8in drive.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ahh yes, I remember my first Seagate ST225. A whopping 20 MB of storage for the low low price of 800 bucks.

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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The left most one is also an HDD? It looks like what I imagine a tape drive would look like but searching for them shows very different results lol

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

Its actually a smaller one too. Those 5 1/4 HDDs could be 2 bays tall.

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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In the compsci building at uni, there is a museum of sorts in the hall to the labs. At the beginning of the storage section, there is a 20Mb storage device. It is the size of a washing machine, I have no idea how much it weighs, but it has to be in the 100's of kg range.

Sitting on top are much more modern devices, 5.25"/3.5"/2.5" drives; I haven't been back for a decade to know if they kept going as tech improved.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

I've got a full-height 5 1/4" 1GB hard drive around here. Thing is massive.

I've also got most of the storage devices I've ever used over the decades:

  • 5 1/4" floppy
  • 3 1/2" floppy
  • 4mm DAT tape
  • 8mm DAT tape
  • 1/4" QIC tape
  • Zip disk
  • Cassette tape
  • Punched tape

I'm missing the following:

  • DLT tape
  • LTO tape
  • 8" floppy
  • IBM 2315 disk pack

Never used 9-track tapes, punch cards, or removable disk multipacks.

EDIT Don't know how I forgot about cartridges (Atari 400 and 2600 - still got em!) and CDROM/DVD/WORM. I have CDROM, DVDROM (in various formats), but no WORM media (i.e. IBM 3363 - a CDROM in a rigid case, before the official CD standard was created).

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You need a Jazz drive and a mean looking 20mb MFM hard drive that didn't have auto parking.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is that NVME only half length still with a full TB? It almost looks to be the same size as an M.2 wifi adapter. Crazy that they're getting this small.

I recently bought two cheaper 1TB NVME and have some premium ones from several years ago but they're all the full 80mm length. I have yet to come across ones this small personally.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

2280 seems to be the most common DIY size, 2230 is common for business machines, sometimes in an adapter to fit a normal 2.5" HDD bay or a slot large enough for 2280. I just removed one from the 2280 adapter last week to get data off after the storm came through the east coast.

[–] recked_wralph@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fact that those measurements are in inches when “2280” means 22mm x 80mm agitates me.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] spwyll@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When the measurement is already in the designation, the only point to adding information is for "translation." It would irk me if someone felt the need to point out a 2280 was 80 mm long while a 2230 was only 30 mm long. I mean it's already in the name...

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I mean I appreciate the mention or else I wouldn't have learned it

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I remember being astounded by the 8GB backup tapes that fit in my shirt pocket.

[–] frank_exchange_of_views@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kind of hard to see the scale, but the drive that this removable platter would go into, took the full width of a 19" rack.

It once held several megabytes, but now it's a decoration in my office.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It'd be gnar if the smallest one was also a magnetic platter hard drive.

The smallest old style hard drive I can think of is the iPod. But now I want to know if any magnetic platter drives got smaller than that... 🤔

Afaik, it's all been solid state after that. Even newer iPods.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember all the formats shown.

My first machine was an AST Research 286 16Mhz (in "turbo" mode) with two 5-1/4" floppy drives, and a 40 MB 5-1/4" hard drive. I paid ~$2000 for it in the late 80s. That was a good move, I knew more about computers than most people applying for jobs at the time, and that allowed me to make a decent living without a college degree.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oldest hard drives I've dealt with were 4RU. Those systems also had me attaching reels of tape with write enable rings.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really is amazing, and just popping an m.2 into a motherboard directly is just so... easy. And I think Gen5s are what, 2.5x faster than what you're showing here?

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The screw situation is finicky. It's a weird mix between you're supposed to have screws from your case/motherboard or sometimes the drive comes with one. But if you move stuff and drop the tiny tiny screw it's a hassle. Every motherboard should just have the little tab you just turn to keep it in place.

Plus the newer gen fast drives get hot so they need a heatsink. The fastest maybe need heatsink plus airflow. So then you need an extra fan if you don't have enough airflow which is easy because it's flush against the motherboard and sometimes blocked by the GPU.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Meanwhile I'm traveling soon and "packing" microSDs, like... 0.5Tos the size and nearly weight of my fingernail. It's ridiculous!

I considered buying the 2To ones ... but I don't even need them. Even the 0.5To ones it's to carry some video library or Kiwix with Wikipedia and StackOverflow which to be honest I don't even truly need as I can get the content over the Internet anyway.

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