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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guy living in the government funded house for the leader of the official opposition, even though he is not the leader of the official opposition, suggests the PM isn't being ethical.

[–] Kyle@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't an endorsement for Pierre, but treating this as an controversy is misleading and ingenuine.

The leader of the opposition literally told Pierre to stay there. I watched this interview live when parliament resumed in May:

"Given that Mr. Poilievre hopes to be re-elected as a Member of Parliament in a few months and Prime Minister Carney promised to hold the byelection quickly, it would be more costly to taxpayers to move the family out and then right back into the residence," Scheer said in a statement to CBC News."

Given the treasure trove of criticisms to bring to light about Pierre Pollieve's policies, this obfuscates the importance of the real issues and makes people who oppose Pierre look foolish at best.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get it. I also get that the reason this is an issue is because he lost a seat he held for 20 years and needs help from others to keep his job and house. He talks about personal responsibility and then asks for handouts when he loses. He talks about government elites and then uses his political status to get special treatment. It is an example of his hypocrisy.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

It's almost comical that his election tagline was, "vote for change", and then he refused to accept the change his constituents voted for.

[–] Kyle@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Valid point. Seeing it from that perspective almost makes me just as angry, but am refusing to 😅

Thing is, the hypocrisy is invisible and meaningless to his voters. But if you ever have the chance for respectful dialog with them, maybe there will be an opportunity to change some views.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And we want you to fuck off, PP.

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago

This is Canada, oligopoly and corruption is a part of our heritage.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And I want PP to fuck off, but sadly he doesn't seem like he's gonna stop suckling at the taxpayers' teat anytime soon.

Edit: a typo

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Why is this guy still around?

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Polievre still doesn't understand how a blind trust works eh?

[–] Thalion@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

He understands it perfectly well, but he knows a large chunk of his base doesn't

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"We're calling on the Prime Minister to sell his investments, turn them into cash, hand them to a trustee who can invest them in a way that is completely blind to him so that he does not have any knowledge of what he owns"

I assumed this was what a blind trust is, can you educate me what a blind trust actually is?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rather than having a fire sale (selling all investments, which implies in the short term), the trustee sells and buys investments as he sees fit without consulting the owner. It's just Poilievre adding a step that seems obvious to the ignorant and harms the person he's attacking.

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is the portfolio manager selected? Surely the best risk/reward would be a fully diversified etf fund which would require some liquidation, but many managers try to actively trade but the majority also fail.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know how Carney was managing his investments previously, and switching to a different fund has the same issues I raised before, but ask yourself this question. How is this more relevant for Carney than all the other politicians, and why are these demands being made of only him? I'm don't have a problem with limits on how politicians invest, but I expect the investment advantages are similar for most politicians at a given level of politics, especially for the senior politicians. So why is Poilievre banging on this drum, and not broader anti-corruption measures?

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I assume because hes a green guys who has written books on it, worked as a director of ESG at Brookfield, and is now seen as potentially giving green subsidies. Obviously it looks better if he doesnt own a vast leaning towards Brookfields when he dishes out subsidies to for-profit corporations. I agree that whenever a politician has obvious conflict of interests it should be rectified and incentives neutralized.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So we should stop having politicians from having investments in housing, right?

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would love to have that terrible pick for housing minister be liquidated, that is a prime example of blatant corruption.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Well, there's nothing stopping Poilievre and his wife from selling the rental properties they own, which should help remove some conflict of interest they may have in this issue which is so important to many Canadians, and he doesn't even have to get the approval of anyone but his wife to make it happen (and that only for one of them).

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Carney was kind enough to let you squat in Stornoway, Pierre. Pretty ungrateful.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Poilievre just wants to get his name in the news media. Any excuse or frivolous point will do.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Ok but only if PeePee gets security clearance!

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Just put the fries in the bag, Peter Polliver. Oh wait, your non-existent skill-set makes you ineligible for even that sort of job.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

It is a blind trust fuckwit.... What is wrong with you... Just go away loser...

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago

This is the most significant nit he can find to pick‽

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fine by me. Most of the policies Carney proposed will support big companies and people with stocks.

If Carney sells his stocks and doesn't have investments he'll be like a significant proportion of Canadians.

Join us, rich boy.

(And Poilievre can sell his ten rental properties and donate his parliamentary pension to cats or something)

[–] NSAbot@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (19 children)

It’s a blind trust. Maybe they’ve already been sold. He doesn’t know. And because it’s in a blind trust, if he did want them sold he:

  1. Doesn’t get to tell the person managing what to do (buy or sell)
  2. Couldn’t be told by the manager whether they had been sold

This is as stupid as the excuses to not get a security clearance

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[–] DancesOnGraves@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he cashes out of his investments, then what does PP expect him to do, hold a massive cash position, and eat inflation?

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

His quote is one sentence, and if you hold on to the end (I know, it's hard) you'll see your answer.

"We're calling on the Prime Minister to sell his investments, turn them into cash, hand them to a trustee who can invest them in a way that is completely blind to him so that he does not have any knowledge of what he owns," Poilievre said.

I wish people would stop rushing to shit their opinions out based on headlines

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