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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 6 days ago

I mean, there is almost certainly no "The List", "2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer".
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Of all the things to publicly tell on yourself with. Damn man.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

It's definitely real, even if it is just the list of 150 Epstein associates that were unsealed years ago. If there was anything more, it ceased to exist during the first Trump administration.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We believe the rumored client list is real now? Case documents for Giuffre v. Dershowitz have already been unsealed & released. I thought everyone was calling claims of secret, unreleased documents a right-wing conspiracy theory a few months ago. It's really hard to follow what we're supposed to think here. What's going on?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There probably isn't a full-on list that just lays out who was all involved, line-by-line; but to believe that there is no information and no names to be revealed is to believe that Epstein was arrested and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for the crime of trafficking no one, to no one, to engage in no acts.

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Nobody is going to release a real list because it will exclusively hurt the rich and powerful.

Trump Part 1 didn't, Biden didn't, Trump won't do it now.

There definitely is a list. Probably not a spreadsheet or a black book, but you have to make schedules and appointments work. Double booking diddlers is bad business. There are records.

What has been established by the media is that there is a list (whether true or not) and being on that list is damning. Unfortunately we're at a point where if a list is released, anyone with a brain would have to doubt it as being nothing more than a political tool, and anyone without a brain will immediately try to crucify anyone on it.

All the back and forth and hemming and hawing buys time to figure out who to put on the list. Get all the Democrat names you like, but finding enough Republicans to put on the list, but not anyone who'll rat (preferably dead) is the tricky part. Gotta make it halfway believable.

It's sad that instead of bringing the worst people in our society to justice, this will either be swept under the rug or set fire to the Reichstag.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Woah everybody is going wild and jumping on Stephen King like piranhas haha. He said one vague things and now everyone here is accusing him of being a pedophile. Fucking crazy!

[–] Bytemite@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Stephen King is absolutely the next person I think is going to have some heinous shit come out about him, like happened with Gaiman. Too many years writing in a cocaine haze, on record defenses of Woody Allen marrying the step daughter he raised, the whole thing with the ending of IT.

Not commenting on the Epstein List, tbh it's political football and I don't know if we'll ever have anything confirmed until well after anyone who could be impacted by it is gone. King's just one of those people who if you look close enough there's reasons to be suspicious, but who is such an industry giant that I think no one wants to say anything.

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