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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 111 points 1 week ago (4 children)

From my outside perspective, it's the pledge of allegiance.

Do you really have your kids stand up every morning and swear an oath to your flag? That's some real cult shit.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't forget public meetings, as grown-ass adults.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

And then berate them for thinking that the ideals espoused in that pledge are real in any way.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nothing could be more American than that pledge: it was something that was first propagated by a flag company that was trying to sell more flags.

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I had a teacher in elementary school that taught us that when a flag falls on the floor, you’re supposed to kiss it.

Yes, seriously.

It was just part of the normal flag-worship we were ~~taught~~ brainwashed with.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

b/c they can't go burning the flag every time a kid fucks up but they can't bring themselves to totally abandon a ritual that has become a superstition

[–] Booboofinget@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was taught that if a flag falls on the floor you are supposed to burn it.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is "flag law" but you also aren't allowed to display the flag on a T-shirts, in any disrespectful manner, or a fuckin pick up truck and yet. here we are...

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First thing that comes to mind for me is the huge number of people who are religious fanatics here, which is unusual for a Western country. This is also a big part of what led us to the fascist government we have today.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I think you’ve kinda missed the lede - religious fanatics. We’ve got plenty of those. Other western countries have quite a few religious people, but they aren’t often in-your-face cross wearing, “I’m a Christian”, openly judgy Karens like they are here.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I specified religious fanatics because they're the problem, not religious people in general.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

in Europe, someone tells me their are Christian or are wearing a cross, it's no big deal.

in the US, it's a massive red flag

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 57 points 1 week ago

What am I gonna do about it?

Listen here you bastard: Nothing, that's what!

Oh wait, that's probably why they keep doing it.

[–] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 35 points 1 week ago (13 children)

As a German I don't understand why the USA basically do have two political parties. I know there are technically other parties but they have no impact.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 week ago (5 children)
  1. Because first past the post electoral systems always result in a 2 party system due to defensive voting.

  2. Because Americans didn't listen to George Washington, when during his farewell address he strongly cautioned against "alternate domination" of a 2 party system.

  3. Because Americans are woefully uneducated, dis-interested, and preoccupied.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And because now that it's entrenched, the two parties will collude even past the death of the country to keep it that way

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This comment from another post here on Lemmy says it all.

I was listening to the 5-4 podcast recently and they repeatedly stressed the point that Trump has lost ≈90% of lower court decisions and won ≈90% of Supreme Court decisions, which is an absurd swing. I’ll try to dig up a source on it though. Still it’s blatantly obvious that the SC has completely abandoned the rule of law and the constitution.

Without rule of law, we're no longer a country.

Reading actual SCOTUS rulings can be pretty wild. The one for the 2000 presidential election basically said "we're giving this to Bush for no particular reason but this is a one-time decision that should never in the future be used as a precedent" despite the fact that precedent from previous rulings is pretty much their whole thing. Even the stay they issued to stop the recount in Florida early in the process basically said "the recount must stop because it would impair the legitimacy of a Bush presidency".

The ruling against Roe v. Wade was just comedy. They were using English law from centuries before the United States even existed as precedent for their decision.

[–] dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There’s some structural reasons (the senate, primarily) that American politics will almost inevitably devolve into two parties.

If I could do one thing to fix American politics it would be to abolish the senate, which gives low population states an insanely unbalanced level of influence over national politics.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It drives me ls me crazy that Alaska gets the same amount of senate votes as California when we’re fifty times their population.

[–] dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Wyoming too, which has even fewer people than Alaska.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It is actually 2 flavors of the same party. The USA is a one-party state, controlled by the capitalist party.

EDIT: lol you can downvote me while you decide whether you want to vote for the Israel-defending-capitalist-that-ran-on-"securing"-the-border or the other Israel-defending-capitalist-that-ran-on-"securing"-the-border 🤪

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because they don't do proportional voting like you Germans or we Austrians do, most of their elections (and all federal ones) have one winning candidate in a state or congressional district.

And there is mostly not even a requirement for 50% of the vote, but the candidate with most votes wins. That creates the two party system.

The parties in the US are much broader than in our countries, it's very common for different members of the same party to vote against each other.

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[–] denial@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

"Winner takes it all" makes it inherent to the system. They really really need to change that. But that is hard, when it keeps the only two relevant partys in power.

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

for me it's the whole "don't tread on me" and gun culture rhetoric. Americans seem to be "don't push me" but when they actually get pushed they're all "uWu please more daddy" it's odd.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

I can explain this one. Growing up in America, you're constantly told that you're a patriot simply because you were born here—like just existing in the same country where Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington lived 250 years ago somehow makes you part of their legacy. It's pushed on you so early and so hard that you don't even question it. You just go to school, and the first thing you do is stand and pledge allegiance to the state—together, as a group. It’s ritualistic. It functions like a cult mechanism. That’s how it gets ingrained.

Most Americans do not have an understanding that they are being tread on.

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[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Not the weirdest, but I didn't realize this until it was pointed out.

The fascination with work, and how one's employment or career is tied to personal identity. It's a basic conversation starter, "What do you do for work?" Not "What do you enjoy doing?" or "Do you have any hobbies?" or "Where do you go to relax?" Nope.

What to you do for work.

It's a weird question that is tied up in judgement and classism. And it's so normal here

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[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

MKULTA and COINTELPRO were pretty wild. Operation Northwoods as well. And the FBI basically admitted to assassinating Dr King. By the 1990s they learned to eliminate the paper trails, so probably no telling who actually knew what regarding 9/11 or the 20 trillion dollars that vanished into thin air during Iraq and Afghanistan

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

don't forget the CONTA scandal, illegally financing violent drug cartels to flood black streets with drugs, to sell missiles to Iran and fill private prisons with black people for slave labour.

it sounds like made up BS.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer 20 points 1 week ago (11 children)
  • Gun culture
  • Making houses out of wood. To me, someone from a country where houses are made of brick, this is like living in a shed. Also, the USA is the hotspot of tornadoes, so it makes even less sense
  • One of the richest countries in the world, and universal healthcare isn't a thing
[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Making houses out of wood.

This is fine. Lumber was historically plentiful in North America, and lumber houses last just as long as stone or brick.

Lumber has several advantages over stone/concrete/brick:

  • Less CO2 impact from construction activities. Concrete production is a huge contributor to atmospheric CO2.
  • Greater sustainability in general. Concrete is approaching a global sand shortage, because most sand in the world doesn't have the right qualities to be included in concrete.
  • Better energy efficiency and insulation properties. Brick homes need double walls in order to compete with the insulation properties of a wood framed house that naturally has voids that can be filled with insulation.
  • Better resilience against seismic events and vibrations (including nearby construction). The west coast has frequent earthquakes, and complying with seismic building code with stone/masonry requires it to be reinforced with steel. The state of Utah, where trees and lumber are not as plentiful as most other parts of North America, and where seismic activity happens, has been replacing unreinforced masonry for 50+ years now.
  • Easier repair. If a concrete foundation cracks, that's easier to contain and mitigate in a wood-framed house than a building with load-bearing concrete or masonry.

Some Northern European and North American builders are developing large scale timber buildings, including timber skyscrapers. The structural engineers and safety engineers have mostly figured out how to engineer those buildings to be safe against fire and tornadoes.

It's not inherently better or worse. It's just different.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

A brick home wouldn’t withstand a tornado either. Like if a tree hits a brick house it would do significant damage to the house. And most brick houses still have a timber roof under the roof tiles so even a small tornado could lift the roof off the house.

Here is a brick house hit by a small tornado in England

Reinforced concrete is a much better material for a hurricane and tornado resistant building. Also shape of the house is important. A dome would be the best.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Living here, I will tell you that the insistence on building houses in a neo-colonial style in tornado alley, hurricane prone areas, or in a middle of a yearly flood plane, baffles me. We should have completely different architectural styles adpated to withstand the elements at this point. You know, what housing is supposed to be for in the first place? /rant

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

World Champions in sports that only the US participates in. I am not a fan of football, both the "footy" version or the "NFL" but it's always been odd to me that winners of the Super Bowl, or equivalent event, are often declared "World Champions" of their own league in an event exclusively hosted in the US.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The apparent obsession with money. Some people claim to be religious but it's clear the Almighty Dollar is their God. I know we make jokes about needing a "profit motive", but there is a grounding in reality. It's truly bizarre, from an outside perspective, just what lengths and depths people will sink to in order to increase profit. I'm not saying this is an American Only thing, but it's VERY apparent in the USA just how far people will go.

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[–] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Where I live almost everyone assumes you are a right wing Christian. They don't even take into consideration that you're not and if they figure out you aren't they stop talking to you in most cases. I've never had anyone straight up call me an idiot but I've had good friends freeze up when they found out and then start avoiding me afterwards. You get looked at like a lizard in human skin.

To add to this, I've heard the talk that gets passed around before they found out that I wasnt. If you are a woman they will straught up call you a witch

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’m a passing trans guy, and where I live is like this.

It’s just fucked walking around and know that if they knew, I would essentially lose all humanity to them. It happened with my divorce lawyer, it happens with doctors. I’m like an alien hiding in the place I was born.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Flags. Americans are obsessed with the American flag.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Weirdest thing? It's the guns. Definitely the prevalence of guns in the hands of civilians.

Oh. And also how they eat as if their healthcare was affordable.

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