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My mom calls me every 3-4 weeks to ask how she can copy photos from her phone to her laptop. She's been doing that for years and years, she should know the process by now, it's really not hard at all.
I installed Bitwarden for her 2 years ago on her phone and in Firefox, she hasn't needed a single support call about it and actually transferred two decades worth of logins two Bitwarden by herself.
My point is, if my mom can do it, then you have no excuse.
I tried something similar with my mom. Unfortunately she couldn't handle it and stopped trying to use it after a few days, then went back to the old horrible habits of memorizing everything (except not, then getting frustrated). I realized I can't save everyone ๐
I'm still trying to get my girlfriend to use bitwarden, she managed to lock herself out of her account the first time she tried and hasn't gone back. I told her to give me her master password next time to prevent that. Still trying to crack that chestnut...
My wife is still on LastPass and is mad that she needs to figure something else out and has so far refused to change systems. Trying to get her to switch, but something is better than nothing I guess. I at least cranked up the settings so she isn't as impacted by their mismanagement.
OK, maybe I was a bit harsh. Everyone being on lemmy personally has no excuse, their parents might :D
I think memorizing everything is a great habit. Maybe not the best with no backup, but still great.
She just wants to talk to you
Nah. We phone 1-2x/week, these are very specific "sorry to ask this again, I have already put in the cable, but now what" questions.
Your mom isn't a raging idiot in denial about her memory problems.
Its more of "why do I need an account to use this service".
My boss used Scribe to show a step-by-step process on how to use a new tool at work. It was just screenshots of the desktop and some text. A powerpoint presentation would have sufficed, with no* account needed. (Well, work uses the Microsoft suite, but Libre Office has no account needed)
well you don't need an account to view scribe documents, just create/edit them. it is a service, after all
I have limited experience with it. I think I understand its niche, and it isn't me. It's basically just for people who struggle to take screenshots and put text boxes next to them in powerpoint (which disappointingly is a lot of people).
we got it for our company to see if it would be worthwhile for each department to have an account and people could use it to make work instructions. I don't know how other departments are finding it, but it's not worth it for me vs the old way. The amount of editing I had to do in my one test scribe was enough that I could have just done it in powerpoint using snipping tool
I think where I see the most value in it is that it records what you're doing, so it's unlikely to miss a step, whereas when you do it yourself you might skip over a small step.
Unburden yourselves: give all of your passwords unto me.
hunter2
What is it? All I see is *******.
Whatever their password is, they've obviously formatted it to only share with ivanafterall
I don't understand how I could ever live without a password manager.
You would reuse the same password or use the same password with slight variations. I would also often see passwords written down on sticky notes. People sometimes has different passwords but stores them unencrypted in password.xls or something similarly named.
Thank God for password managers these days. I haven't refused the same password for many years now. I generate three random words with a number and special character for all my passwords.
password.xls
lol, try "dhshhfhs.txt" placed on the desktop
It's taken me five years to convince my wife to use a password manager. It almost landed us in couple's counseling.
I've just given up on my 80-yo mom. No amount of therapy could fix my PTSD by the time I convinced her to use one.
When I made login passwords as a kid outside of school and the library, and approached 3 passwords I actually had to remember instead of them being my birthdate, I thought "It begins..." Now I have over a hundred. But serving Bitwarden and letting it handle 'randomly' generated passwords with dozens of characters allows me to reduce my load back down to 1 very secure manual password and a few frequent manual ones, for example if Microsoft logs my Xbox profile out of the console I'm not going to sit there d-padding my way through 50+ characters.
That just made me check. Apparently my KeePass database currently sits at 325 passwords, although 50 of them sit in the trash.
"You can just create 1 Sentence to remember all Passwords for particular Services like Lemmy World!"
Ycjc1StraPfpSlLW!
There you go. Different passwords for everything, but you only need to remember one. And no need for a password manager which may not be available on every device.
Until you need to change a password because it's been pwned.
Until you need to adhere to certain password lengths, rules etc.
Until you forget the exact way you abbreviated a sites name.
Just use a password manager.
Yeah I frequently see people tout this "solution" that's actually a serious anti-pattern.
...except that all your passwords are the same save for a few characters. It protects you from lazy password stuffing, but if multiple breaches reveal your pattern you may still be targeted. Also, most of the big password managers are available for most device types as far as I'm aware. That's not to say that it doesn't take some work, but I think many people agree that the payoff is worth it.
I use a system to remember passwords, it works quite well and they all are unique.
But your comment reminds me of my latest annoyance: email addresses. It isn't enough to use different passwords for every account, I now am using different emails for every account. Because companies should be encrypting my password AND my email address. Basically once a breach occurs that email is now garbage because it is a target.
So now password managers are a requirement because I want something more obtuse than email+website@mydomain. rotating domain names, rotating emails, its all a pain in the ass.
You should know maybe up to three passwords? Your login session, your password manager and your encryption key. Everything else should be random and stored in a password manager.
Agreed. We need some way to Manage these Passwords. Something to protect all our password Bits and watch over them like a Warden. Some way that I could have just 1 Password. I just want something to Keep my Ass, err Keep my Pass-words safe.
Hopefully someone will solve this problem. Someday.
Some sort of express lane for passwords.... Like a real dash lane.
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Some sort of keepass that exceeds at storing all these passwords.
Hate that the solution to endless passwords is to carry a password database everywhere I go. So I can use my password while I use my password.
Just make sure you never use your Last Password.
Hasnโt it been a long time since a breach?
I don't see any reason not to just use another PWM anyway. Bitwarden has freemium, 1password has great tooling, does LastPass have anything worth salvaging?
it doesn't matter so much how long its been since a breach and more how they acted about their breaches
"yeah, we let a dumbass access company files through his home computer which they didn't maintain properly leading to a years-old vulnerability in the plex server software compromise that machine and because they are a dumbass they had the connection always-on (afaik) so they basically rolled out the red carpet straight into ALL of our customers accounts and vaults. But it's totes cool brah, we haven't ~~had~~ reported an incident like that since! because we totally tried to cover it up and downplay it, and everyone abandoned us! so we will never do that again! the reporting, I mean."
But it's fine, it's been a long time.
That we know of
KeePassXC, my beloved.