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[-] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Is there one single good reason to have these huge ass monstrosities on the road?

[-] nous@programming.dev 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Car manufacturers did a lot of lobbying to class them as light trucks rather than cars so they can benefit from more lax emissions regulations. Then marketed the hell out of them as the more they sold the less they have to comply with the stricter emissions regulations for normal cars.

So as with every shit thing these days the big reason is to increase profits at any expense.

After successfully lobbying lawmakers to class these vehicles as light trucks rather than cars, binding SUVs to less stringent fuel efficiency standards, the industry set about slotting them into almost every arena of American life.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/01/suv-conquered-america-climate-change-emissions

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Btw, for those interested in learning more about this kind of stuff, Not Just Bikes made a video on this topic that covers it pretty well.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Status. One upping your neighbors and coworkers.

That's pretty much it.

Hummers were EVERYWHERE in my neighborhood back before 2008 because they were both ridiculously big and wastefully expensive. The ultimate one two punch to say fuck you to the Jones next door.

These days, I feel like I see more ridiculously big wastefully expensive pickup trucks than SUVs, but that could be a product of living in Texass.

[-] VegaLyrae@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Because the structure the government set in place prioritizes the biggest heaviest vehicles over smaller cars that are more fuel efficient in absolute terms, but are disqualified due to not meeting the exponential curve of MPG per lbs that make up the limits.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A RAV4 starts at 29k, a sienna starts at 37k. A small SUV is usually cheaper than the cheapest minivan from the same brand. Couple that with the ease of dealing with child carseats in a higher vehicle and there’s your reason.

A small suv is simply the logical choice for small families.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

That's comparing apples to oranges. The sienna seats eight people. You have to compare it with the highlander, which starts at 39K. The rav4 is better compared the camry, which starts at 26K or the corolla

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

I mean you're illustrating the same rationale in a different way. Anyone who's hauled kids around in a sedan knows it sucks, so you go shopping for a family hauler. Traditionally you get a minivan, so you check the price, and it's nuts. You look at their SUV selection and you find a hit. Three thousand over a camry via car-payments is cheap compared to straining your back every day.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

People need to be made to pay the full cost for these things, for the CO2, for the damage to infrastructure, oe the air pollution, for the risk to people. That or regulate them out of existence.

[-] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

In Australia, car registration cost is based on weight. Does the same apply in the US?

[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Registration is managed at the state level. In Minnesota weight is not a factor. The registration tax for passenger class vehicles (cars, vans and pickups rated at less than one-ton, and one-ton passenger vans) is determined by the vehicle's base value and age. Minimum tax for vehicles 10 years old and older is $35.

The newer and more expensive your vehicle the higher the tax. In terms of road repair costs, that is collected via a gas excise tax.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I don't know about the US, but not in Canada.

[-] MeowyNinhaj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago
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