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After months of sharply criticizing President Donald Trump’s actions, decisions and rhetoric, the left-leaning MeidasTouch Podcast overtook the Joe Rogan Experience for the first time last week, according to YouTube’s weekly ranking of top podcast shows.

While Rogan’s 20.1 million YouTube followers dwarf MeidasTouch’s 5.2 million, the podcasting giant’s show finished in second place. Progressive YouTuber Brian Tyler Cohen and conservative-leaning Sean Ryan’s shows also made the top ten.

The MeidasTouch Podcast saw its rankings climb in July as Trump attempted to appease Congress, the media, and voters over his administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, with episodes zeroing in on the president’s past ties to and comments about the disgraced financier.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Cool, but what I dislike about the MeidasTouch is how they seem to prop up the importance of something against Trump when it's usually something that isn't going to make him flinch. They are giving people a false sense of security when people should be realizing that they will need a revolution to get out of fascism.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Clickbait works. If that's what it takes to get promoted in the algorithm and compete with the right-wing garbage, then so be it. It's better than the right-wing garage being presented unopposed.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That may be the point and reason, but that doesn't eliminate the negative side of it. You won't find me defending clickbait or divisive social network algorithms putting people into their own bubbles, that's what got us into this problem in the first place and it's just going to keep waddling societies from extremes to extremes.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago

He doesn't cares about nothing and understands less, so your criticism is that they just don't attack his ego 100% of the time.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago

Does anyone remember the simpler times where Phillip de Franco was relevant and TYT was leftist? Sigh. The internet is dying.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

JOE ROGAN: the guy (who's opinion I could not care less about) that would RATHER VISIT RUSSIA than CANADA.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It's "whose" and it looks like you CARE A LOT?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago
[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Whose that now?

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I’m glad Meidas is surging in popularity but the bros are fucking annoying at times.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 8 hours ago

The children (TikTokkers) yearn for annoying podcast hosts

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 35 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't really care for either, and I'm particularly politically minded and listen to podcasts almost exclusively. They just aren't very interesting or funny, the two things I need in a podcast. What's the appeal, rage?

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Rage seems to win elections.

[–] tylerkdurdan@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

I like Crooked Media's Pod Save the World.

Sometimes Pod Save America, but thats probably more interesting for someone living in the US. I can't listen to it more than maybe once a month.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

You might like The Daily Beans (with Allison Gill and Diana Goldberg)

I’ve been finding the tone “you’re not alone” tone of anger to be… helpful.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Incredibly misleading title and also Who?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Donald Trump. Maybe you've heard of him?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 18 points 15 hours ago

Isn't that the guy on Epstein's list?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Donald Trump, the guy with Mike a dozen separate lists in the Epstein files and was totally best buds until Epstein poached from his happy ending massage parlor?

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I have no fucking idea why people watch Rogan, he's not particularly well versed in anything other than martial arts, he's not brilliant or even well spoken or educated by any stretch of the imagination... it feels to me as if he became popular because the average idiot finds this interesting but in reality he's just talking about nonsensical themes with some guests that, surprisingly, are quite well educated themselves.

I'll always remember this man as the crazed idiot who screamed bloody murder at a zoologist because her findings, research and experience contradicted what he wanted to showcase so at that moment he truly showed who he was.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he's not brilliant or even well spoken or educated by any stretch of the imagination

That's the point. He's the average American idiot. I grew up with legions of these guys. He got people to eat bugs in the 2000s for insane ratings.

The masses are garbage people.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with listening to people that aren’t smart for podcasts. I listen a lot to sports podcasts that are just 2 people shooting the shit about random things.

Now it IS a problem if you base your political identity and take voting advice from them yes. Joe Rogan should not be someone ever reported on by CNN.

But saying that every podcaster has to have a PHD is a bit heavy handed.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 42 points 23 hours ago

He’s like a friend’s older brother who isn’t educated but tells coolbro stories and conspiracies with no backing. It’s edgy and cool if you’re 14 with no life experience, but besides that it’s just noise which helped Yamtits get elected.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Rogan used to have great stuff on his show pre-covid, especially MMA talks. He even had a great episode with Michael Osterholm at the beginning of the pandemic.

Shortly after that, he 180'd on his vaccine stance, and moved from Cali to Texas. Since then, he's been a total conservative pundit.

I've long since kicked Rogan from anything I listen to, but there was a time where he was entertaining, and did have great guests. Some of his "talking nonsense" was kind of what made his show fun, when it was harmless. Now he spreads misinformation and perpetuates brainrot in young men.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I am in the same boat.

Joe Rogan was a good interviewer, he is humble and unassuming and gives enough space to the guest to share. If you are into the guest, then you will enjoy it, I really enjoyed his interview on Tarantino and a few others.

It is also nice when he interviews comedians, since you can see the camaraderie and some of them are really funny, like Chapelle, Burr or CK. It is very interesting to listen to them if they are given space.

I stopped to listen when it became obvious that he is monetizing or capitalizing all the audience he has gained over the years. He is not a neutral commentator, he is a pundit with an agenda and he is making bank on it. That has degraded the image I had of him to the image I have of people as O'Reilly or the Bow-Tie guy.

It is a shame but I will not listen to anything from his show on principle.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

For me, it was the episode when he had Tim Pool on with the Twitter executives. Pool was like "Twitter discriminates against conservatives" and Vijaya Gadde was like "Moderation is not discrimination". Rogan did realize his mistake five minutes into the episode, but he showed just how impressionable he was. The whole show lost the allure after that. There's a thin line between curious and gullible.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I don't mind gullible. I think that is just part of his persona.

What I mind is that he is a dishonest and malicious manipulator.

It became obvious in his political commentary that he was subjective on purpose with an agenda, that means he is being paid one way or another.

When he finally endorsed Trump, it became undeniable.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People also like McDonald's and coca cola ...... even when they have runaway diabetes.

The popularity of something or someone is just a barometer of the general intelligence of a population ..... and judging by what's happening in the US, it's a very low level indeed.

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wait, how is he dethroned? The article states Rogan has more watchers/viewers.

For the record I hate that bald turd.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You're right. They kind of buried it.

According to data analyzed by Newsweek using podcast analytics platform Podscribe, the MeidasTouch Podcast was the most downloaded podcast overall between June 7 and July 7.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

maybe someone stole his chair

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I wondered this too. But Rogan is just first in followers. MeidasTouch was first in views. Also, this was only for YouTube, which according to the article is the top podcast service now, which is hard to believe considering WHY podcasts have taken over.

The data showed MeidasTouch amassed 124 million views in that period, with Rogan scooping the second spot with 39.2 million views.

I think it helps that MeidasTouch has much MUCH shorter episodes. Like, any of Rogan's 3 hour videos counts as 1 view. Hours watched would probably be different.

On Spotify, the story is way different too. I guess that makes sense to my other point of why podcasts are popular. It's a lot easier to just listen to an imbecile ramble in the background for 3 hours than to watch it.

On Spotify, however, Rogan remains king, taking the number one spot, while MeidasTouch secured the 73rd spot on the audio streaming company’s U.S. podcast charts.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago

Ugh. Rightwing liberals under a veneer of anti establishment

But also, I don't trust these rankings. Downloads of episodes versus streaming on YT versus the app versus follower counts. It's all very apples to oranges.

What I can say positively, is that The Majority Report gets about as many live viewers as Meidas touch an YT, and has for much longer as a genuinely progressive outlet. Likewise, for better or worse, TYT has also been putting up those kinds of numbers for a very long time.

But it is interesting to me to see MT bump JRE. It does say something about a turning tide.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Dude is a loser and manipulates his audience for profit instead of running a business to support and/or entertain for good, just like everyone else on that side/way of business.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Hahaha what rock did you crawl out of that you think people are doing it to educate people.

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