Amber is a questionable addition, other than that, yeah.
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There's a lot of Amber's behaviour I really don't like and I really understand people believing him. It's worth looking at the UK judge's verdict from the UK trial, where an experienced judge tested the evidence and found he was abusive. There's also Ellen Barkin saying he drugged her for sex, him dating Winona when she was 17 and he was 26, his friendship with multiple abusers, see here, here, and here (warning: Ginsberg was a supporter of NAMBLA). Then of course Manson who here shared awful texts with and many, many other things that make me believe her. However Amber's behaviour was awful sometimes, she did a lot of attention seeking, and I really understand people disbelieving her.
It is possible for two people to both be bad.
Yep exactly. And not every person in an abusive relationship is a nice person, especially when they've endured years of abuse
At which point in this list of yours are Ambers Heard's abusive actions justified?
And if they're not, why are you defending a convicted abuser?
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Amber Heard deserved all of it.
Meghan Markle did not deserve it as such, just… what did she think would happen?
I absolutely agree Meghan Markle didn't deserve it, especially the racist angle which is indefensible. If you see my comment above, there's more to the Amber's Heard story that wasn't reflected in the media narrative. And I can't think of a male abuser that's faced as much vitriol as her.
Considering I haven't heard calls for Amber to have her genitals chopped off, certainly none met with cheering... I can think of many male abusers who have faced as much vitriol as her. This sounds like heavy duty white knighting
Steve thanks for popping by! We are women only so please don't comment again, thanks for understanding 😊
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Isn’t Meghan Markle a royal? That alone means she’s fit for guillotining.
She's weird. An American actress who married a prince, but the level of racist bullshit they've went through have pushed the both away from his family. She doesn't deserve the French treatment, but her in-laws shouldn't have their jobs
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My partner is following the Blake lively case and she is absolutely a toxic narcissist who deserves the hate she’s been getting. Going after small time content creators with less than 10 followers is pathetic.
Same with Amber Heard.
Did anyone but the royal family dislike Diana? She's aleays come off as pretty university beloved to the point that people sided with her over the fuckass prince who survived her
Yep she was adored, queen of hearts. She took some shit in the media though
Yeah the media was completely savage with her.
Yep. I remember reading about the abuse paparazzi would shout at her so she'd react or at least and they'd get a photo. They were vile
The UK paparazzi is a plague on the whole country, if you're remotely in the public eye, they will drag you through the mud completely without regard for reality or consequences.
Stephenie Meyer.
Hear me out. Were the books well written? No. Did they describe very toxic and harmful relationship dynamics? Yes. Did they contain weird morals? Also yes.
These are all things that can be justly criticised. And there is probably a lot more to criticise. But did Stephanie Meyer, and to some extent her readers, really deserve the huge wave of hate they got? Were the books really objectively worse than other YA fiction? Or was it just because they were popular among young women?
I was a teenager when the books came out and loved them. (Though even then I did not understand why they needed to marry so young and she lost me with the whole Renesmee thing). Now I cringe hard about almost any aspect of them, but hate is going a bit overboard.
And at least Meyer (to my knowledge) didn't try to push her weird worldviews onto us outside of her book, unlike JKR.
I've heard very little hate for Stephanie but plenty for Twilight the series. Most of the general public that would be unjustly hating on her probably don't know her name, tbh. Maybe I'm just living in a fairy tale land? 🤷
Moreover, Meyer matured as an author. Her book The Chemist is a genuinely excellent genre-bending espionage romance thriller, which her fans hated because it wasn’t about vampire porn.
Contra's video about twilight really got me to rethink Meyer. I'm not calling her a master of her craft like Tamsyn Muir, Arkaday Martine, or Ursula K. LeGuinn or anything, but she wrote something that a ton of people loved. Not all art needs to be particularly skillfully made or particularly deep to be cherished. And in retrospect it's clear that the backlash was largely because it was primarily loved by teenage girls and middle aged women. I know that's why I judged it.
Also Meyer has just remained a general class act despite the bullying, which speaks to her character and is refreshing compared to the other major YA author of her era.
Complete side note: I love seeing Ursula K. LeGuinn mentioned when talking about masters of the craft. She's a god damned genius and the entire reason I got into fantasy, which is the reason I read so much to this day.
To at least pretend to be on topic: a lot of folks, myself especially, missed out on a lot of really cool shit because it was enjoyed by teen girls. I was bad about making fun of those things (I hated anything popular for a long time, especially if it was aimed in that particular direction). Twilight was not for me, but good for her for putting out stuff people enjoyed. Very few people have the honor of doing that and I'm happy for her.
I totally see your point with Meyer
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100% always Monica Lewinsky
Lousy list. Plenty of garbage on it.
Name the women you believe deserve the hate they got.
Diana didn't really get any hate and didn't reallydeserve the attention, so... her? 🤷 Like not saying she should've been hated, just that I never got why ppl acted like she was some saint
It's not saintly, just common decency, but she did use her fame to fight the fear/hate of people with AIDS, and homophobia in general. And Charles and some of the other royals encouraged the press to give her shit for going out to have fun, when he was fucking Camilla and only married Diana for an heir and a spare, which she faithfully provided.
Gal Godot. Ellen degeneres. Anyone who participated in that Imagine debacle
I don’t know enough about most of them to have an opinion. At a certain level of fame, everything you do is going to be scrutinized and exaggerated into an attention-grabbing headline. Celebrities are still just people and hate is a strong word. Unless they’ve done something truly awful, I don’t have a reason to think of someone I’ve never met as anything beyond mildly annoying.
Totally agree. I'm so checked out of celebrity gossip that I only recognized Amber Heard's controversy, only vaguely, and only because people kept asking me about it, to which I'd respond, "Oh, I don't know."
"Anne Hathaway? Oh, I remember Les Mis. She did that whole song in one take."
i don't follow celebrities closely enough to know about all of these controversies, but seems fair
Agree 100%
Britney in particular, the poor woman was large scale humiliated for breaking down after years of abuse and media pressure. Then her freedom was taken from her
It was so shameful and predatory the way she was forced to remain under conservatorship and continue performing, all so her dad could make a fuckton of money off of her.
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