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Yes, I'm aware I can curse on the internet - it's not my first day here. I use the exact words I mean to use, and I'm more a fan of the precision F-strike than indiscriminately carpet-bombing the place with "fucks". Stop word-policing me (and others).

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Yeah, this went over about as well as expected. And the irony and hypocrisy of the free speech absolutists coming out of the woodwork to tell us all what we can and can't say is not lost on me.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 118 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

I suppose i don't see the point.

The reader knows what you censored either way, so by using the words and then censoring them you don't achieve your implied preference for reducing vulgarity in communication (so it might be more impactful and irregular when applied) at all.

Anyone who reads "forking shut" knows what you are writing there in reality. Kinda feels to me like putting on censored porn to make it family friendly, that's not working. Either watch a family movie, or some actual porn in private.

The only reasonable course of action would be to avoid vulgarity and those stand-ins for it completely in your communication.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I brought this up recently. Talking around a topic is still talking about it. If you want to have an adult conversation, use adult words. No one is requiring you to curse at all, but if you’re going to, treat the audience as the age you’re targeting.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It feels infantile and childish to me when grown ass adults use cutie wootie wordy cursies to get around speaking like humans.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who cares if they even are, who the fuck are you to prevent them from speaking how they want to

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't prevent anyone from sounding stupid.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'll have to admit it doesn't sound great and fair, I assumed you were actively against people saying this like some other in the comments

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not against it per se, although I'm against most forms of censorship to appease religious or political pressures. I tend to assume people who self censor swear words are religious or dumb though.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 1 day ago

Or just because you’re around kids

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess I understand doing it around children, but I also think children swearing is hilarious, so...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah, there's nothing quite like the look on the face of a staunchly conservative bigot who's just been called a racist cunt by a based 8yo kid 😄

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fuck that self-censorship bullshit.

You can use expletives, or you can use words that aren't expletives to express what you want to say. Both are valid choices.

Using bowdlerized versions of expletives like a child trying to get away with "naughty" words or a YouTuber/TikToker trying to prevent being demonetized, though? That's unnecessary to the point of obnoxiousness in an uncensored environment like Lemmy.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You're more than welcome to say fork or frell or frack or feth or whatever you want. I LOVE a good "forking shirtballs"

Just understand that if you start typing "f*ck" then people, self included, will assume you are a moron who thinks this is tiktok and you need to keep all your content monetized. Well, some of us are olds and will think you are a moron who doesn't realize that gets you extra banned on gamefaqs. But most people will assume the tiktok and monetization thing.

[–] bdot@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes, on this Monday to Friday plane!!!

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"You see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!"

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (6 children)

No, fuck that.

Either stop self-censoring or don't structure your comments and sentences to use the word. This half-assed censoring is the lazy coward's way out

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Our problem is not with the way people want to say things—its the necessity to do so due to censorship by corporations in an effort to cleanse everything for advertisers.

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[–] cm0002@piefed.world 32 points 1 week ago

Ok yea I'm sometimes guilty of this, but in a more joking kinda way usually

Except when you're posting someone else's content that the creator clearly intended to have a cussword, e.g. a comic, and either you or where you got it from censored it for "the algorithm". That shit is annoying AF

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 27 points 1 week ago

I think it kinda sucks, because I hate self censorship and the mechanisms that lead it it

If you want to do it for religious or moral reasons, I don't really care. You do you. I just don't want you censoring yourself for ad friendliness

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't care if people censor their swears, my problem is the word substitutions making whatever they're saying nigh unreadable like "Unalive", "grape", "PDF file".

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 days ago

Seems easy to read and understand to me

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

PDF file?

Edit: oh wait. I had to say it out loud. Pedophile.

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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The fucking problem with fucking self censorship, is it fucking often comes from people fucking compling with fucking corporate media fucking algorithmic censorship. Then internalizing the fucking limits of online spaces, it's a fucking sinister infiltration of the human fucking mind, and is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right. Also you can say fuck on the Internet.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As soon as some does it, every comment's like a three year old yelling, "You don't like curse words. Here's all the curse words I know!"

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

People should be allowed to do what’s in their comfort zone without fear of reprisal. But I’m still going to believe you’re a child if you can’t even curse in writing

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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On one hand I don't care. On the other hand I also laugh when someone censors something like b*tt...

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 17 points 1 week ago

Real ones say removed (you tried to say bitch on .ml)

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

No, fuck that. Self censorship is shit that has been pushed by companies to sanitize the internet to make websites more appealing to advertisers. It's how we get people "unaliving" themselves with "pew pews" because people are now too fucking chickenshit to just write what they mean.

If you want to fucking swear, then fucking swear. If you don't want to, then don't fucking use some bitch-ass substitute.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The real problem is people feeling the need to self-censor such things at all.

What sort of oppressive failure of a culture raises such values on a person.

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[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 16 points 1 week ago

Lol the people in these comments who feel like someone choosing to use censored swearing is some kind of commentary on their intelligence or mental age. Fucking unreal. Y'all are no better than any other kind of "cringe police".

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Lots of people don't like to swear in person, or will follow it with something like 'oops, did I say that out loud'.

I've never understood being upset when people self-censor online too. How does someone else not swearing effect you?

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

Shit you're right. I still hate it though

[–] don@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

I don’t give a fat fink if a person doesn’t wish to use adult language, but I inherently object to it being censored being normalized on the internet. I’m old enough to remember being excited when I got to upgrade from 14.4 to 28.8, and still others remember 300 baud.

I know you’re aware you can curse on the web, I just object to it in ways other than politely asking you not to censor your posts especially when the curse word is ordinarily spelled there, but scribbled over, like TikTok content brought over here.

I’m not about to water start wrd-plcng nyne, but I am going to prtst if I see what looks to be an attempt to normalize cnsrshp on lmm*.

***** ********* **** *******. ~(these asterisks mean nothing)~

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Won't anybody think of the poor religious fundamentalists trying to impose their stunted world view and twisted values on the majority? It's those people that are responsible for much of the censorship we're facing today.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Ay yes lets let corporations rule all of us wven further by proxy. How dare we swear on a medium that could be reuploaded to their platform

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I dunno, I think it's a little childish to censor swear words instead of finding a replacement or just saying the swear, but it's not that big a deal.

what's worse is people saying r*pe or rap3 instead of rape, or "sui" or "unalive" instead of suicide. people shouldn't have to figure out how every Homestuck character would say a word if they wanna block content including these things.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

You can say f*ck on the internet

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I don't care either way, it's all part of online forums. People say something, others agree or disagree.

What I really dislike are Youtube channels having to censor themselves while reading court documents and such, in fear of getting their channel striked or demonetised.

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