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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 91 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Firefox really does seem to have lost the plot... they don't seem to go five minutes without slamming their dick in another drawer. It starts to look like they're in to it.

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 99 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TBH despite I don't like this specific idea, nor use Firefox directly, I do like the usage of local inference vs sending your data to thirdparty to do AI.

They just needed to do it OPT IN, not OPT OUT.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 21 points 6 days ago (9 children)

then why the fuck is this newsworthy? ugh. Why is there such a huge hateboner for firefox lately?

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

I really don't get it either.

It's not like it's a paid product either.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

A lot of people would rather sit around and tear down the progress being made around them for being imperfect, than pitch in to help change things for the better.

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[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do you have to enable the feature first? Because I'm on v141 and I don't see this feature. Complaining about a useless and draining feature that you yourself enabled is a special kind of stupid tbh.

[–] eyekaytee@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bro, several users have taken to the Firefox subreddit, this is definitely worthy of being the most upvoted post on Lemmy rn

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Because people seem to have a special hate boner for Firefox on here.

And please don't call me bro.

Edit: hate not hat

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's a lot of negativity from certain users/communities on software/services that are mostly good but have imperfections. I rarely if ever see any recommendations for alternatives that actually make sense when this happens.

Firefox and Proton are two very common targets. Sure, they are both not perfect, but they are both offering a solution that does not enrich the current oppressive market leader and they do a pretty solid job at it.

Yes, flaws deserve to be criticized, but there's such a thing as too much.

It's tiring.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

That sums it up pretty nicely.

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[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

where is this AI bloat exactly? I use Firefox every day and see no difference

[–] Semicolon@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is none, this is all AI=bad knee-jerk reaction. From what I can tell, so far Firefox has 3 ML-based systems implemented:

  • Site / text translation - fully local, small model, requires manual action from user
  • Tab grouping suggestions - fully local, small model, requires manual action from user
  • Image alt text generation (when adding images to a PDF) - fully local, small model, looks like it's enabled by default but can be turned off directly in the modal that appears when adding alt text

All of these models are small enough to be quickly run locally on mobile devices with minimal wait time. The CPU spikes appear to be a bug in the inference module implementation - not an intended behavior.

Firefox also provides UI for connecting to cloud-based chatbots on a sidebar, but they need to be manually enabled to be used. The sidebar is also customizable so anyone who doesn't want this button there can just remove it. There's also a setting in about:config that removes it harder.

I actually really like the way Mozilla is introducing these features. I recently had to visit another country's post office site and having the ability to just instantly translate it directly on my device is great.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

You meant to tell me the general public has kneejerk reactions and don't know how a computer works?

What a shock that lemmy bashes Mozilla for doing their job.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Same here, I'm on 141.0 Linux. No tab grouping unless I group them. I do see the ai button but have not bothered with it.

[–] sus@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I remember tab groups showing up one day by themselves maybe a week ago, and then I quickly clicked about two buttons and now they're totally gone and I almost forgot they were a thing. But likely if I had summarily clicked 2 different buttons it might have been turned on without me realizing it, and that would cause the model to be downloaded and the CPU cycles to be spent (at least if I kept the tab groups on)

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Still waiting for this bloat to show up, and I'm on the latest update.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 21 points 6 days ago (22 children)

Mozilla is no longer about making a great browser. Mozilla is about making sure their Google bucks come in each year without fail. They don't work for consumers anymore -- they work for Google.

Throughout the years, the market share of Firefox has shank and shank and their C-Suite has continued giving themselves raises.

Mozilla Inc. has been very sick for a long time. It's a shame that one of the last pieces of honest competition for web browsers belongs to them, because I'm not sure how much longer they will be able to shamble on like this.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Awful Idea? Anal Intrusion? Actually Irrelevant?Activating Idiocy? Adding Incompetence?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

I was actually wondering why it felt like my Firefox was dying, possible could align with this.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Why does Mozilla think we want AI integrated in your browsers ??

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