Trump's just playing to his strength and trying to bankrupt more casinos.
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Vegas is two pronged issue.
International visitors are 100% Trump Slump, we don't want to be picked up by ICE for nothing, tortured, sent to a concentration camp then onto god knows wherever.
That's the reality for anyone without US citizenship in the US.
But they'd already started to lose business due to their greed, the resort fees, parking fees, buffet fees, childcare fees, Vegas was a cheap playground where you gave some extra money to the house for the fun of playing the games. Now it's more expensive than REAL resort locations.
The desert sucks. I live in one - Who would want to go to the desert over the tropics or the snow? Vegas' one thing was being that cheap playground.
That’s the reality for anyone without US citizenship in the US.
Hey it’s also the reality for anyone with citizenship in the United Shitheads of Amerikkka.
Who would want to go to the desert over the tropics or the snow?
As someone who lives in an area with snow I’d like to say that snow really sucks to deal with. The only good thing I have to say about it is that fresh snow looks pretty. Otherwise it’s a pain in the ass to deal with. When shoveling it to clear paths you realize how heavy it can be. Black ice in the winter is also a pain, can hardly tell there is ice there but you will slip all the same.
I love my snow here, but it is getting less and less over the years 🥺
Grass is always greener on the other side :)
We've had few big floods over the last few years which washed out whole roads but generally we don't really consider the negative effects of a constantly wet or frozen environment.
Everything is just dry. Including skin :S
Winters here are also painfully dry! You use up a lot of moisturizer otherwise your skin will be super dry too.
I got more complaints about winter too, like snow can be blindingly white, snow blindness is a real condition. Oh don’t forget about the lake chill effect which means even more snow and colder temperatures. Don’t get me started on windchill and how much being deep in the negative temperatures suck. Also shouldn’t leave out how when snow compacts, thaws and refreezes it becomes super hard and dangerous is you slip on it. As yes that can be slippery too and is a real danger since you can break bones from it. Last thing I really want to add is that seasonal depression during the winter months can be absolutely brutal. Since you get less sunlight and everything is basically black and white it is a depressing as hell place to be.
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. I would not want to live in a desert but you also should not be overly romanticizing winter. Fresh snow and icicles are pretty and all but all the other stuff really makes it less enjoyable.
Exactly. It's enough to learn that we have to give up access to all social media accounts at entry and that if they find something critical of Trump (which likely exists on 99% of all European social media timelines) that's enough to suddenly be sent to confinement for a week or ... a month.
Yeah, no. There are other places to visit.
/Vegas-loving European who has been there pleeenty of times
That's the reality for anyone without US citizenship in the US.
It's the reality for any person of color in the US too, regardless of citizenship status. It's only a matter of time before they seek to revoke any non-white person's citizenship.
(Honestly, given that I left the US, at least I won't have to pay them taxes after they revoke mine)
I'm a bit confused with the section about "fees." Are there casinos in the world you get to stay at, eat, and have them watch your kids for free?
I’m a bit confused with the section about “fees.” Are there casinos in the world you get to stay at, eat, and have them watch your kids for free?
Its not a binary situation about "fees" or "no fees" but rather that amount or number of fees. An example that is being frequently cited for Vegas right now is the Aria hotel charging $25 for bottles of water that are in the hotel rooms. Charging for bottled water in a hotel room isn't new. Charging that much for water for a hotel in a desert is excessive though:
I see. I think the wording threw me off a bit.
I've always expected anywhere targeting tourists to be expensive relative to the local economy. That is an absurd price for bottled water, though. My rule of thumb is to never take anything from the minibar. There's usually a shop within a block or two you get the same thing from at a much more reasonable rate.
There’s usually a shop within a block or two you get the same thing from at a much more reasonable rate.
That same method won't save you on the Vegas strip. Besides a couple exceptions, the shops are owned by the hotels too. From your room it can legitimately be a 20 to 25 minute walk one-way just to get to the next building over from your Vegas hotel, and that next building is likely yet another Vegas hotel.
Actually walgreens and cvs are pretty handy, I was able to stock for a small party on the cheap, and they’re every block or two
Those are the couple exceptions, but they are only "close" to a few hotels. Even for those its a 15-20 minute walk from your room.
But you can just go once and stock up for the whole weekend which isnt a big deal. I usually buy a couple gallons of water and some booze and carry it back to the room.
Sure, but that means bus ride, a taxi, an uber, or you are carrying a weekend's worth of provisions for possibly for a 30 to 40 minute walk back to your hotel room somewhere on the strip.
Tip: bring a Brompton whenever you go to Vegas.
I’m currently here, and I have a $50/day resort fee, there is a parking fee (no car so don’t know it), $500 if they think someone smoked in the room, my $27 room service was $44 after convenience fees to take it up an elevator in the same building. $125 to stay an extra 2 hours on check out.
Not to mention the standard rate at tables is now $15-$50 per bet. Even just a couple years ago you could find tons of tables with $5 bets but even at the crusty old casinos on Freemont they're trying to gouge you.
Trumpcession
Remember when our economy was in the shitter because of a global pandemic and an old guy named Biden came in and passed a bunch of useful legislation that resulted in us having a lower inflation rate than virtually every other nation and the fastest job growth in American history, then everyone decided he was too old and wasn't demanding some other country on the other side of the planet stop genociding and so we decided to go with an equally old felon rapist pedophile with a lifetime of failed business ventures and a fetish for fascism instead?
I’m here right now, wrapping up from a conference.
This place is dead.
I’ve been to Vegas many times, and the lack of foot traffic and crowds is incredible. The most notable thing is the lack of Americans and the strange increase in Hispanic visitors. I saw 8 separate tejano bands set up near the Bellagio with moderate crowds, similar to how it used to be for buskers in the early 2010s. You can get a reservation about anywhere for dinner, same day. Attractions are all walk in.
I’ve been chatting up my uber drivers, and they think it’s down 30-40% based on ride frequency.
Tarrifs and Nazis
FA
FO <-- You are here.
I just left Vegas after visiting for the first time. I can't understand how anyone can afford to vacation there.
It's not worth it anymore. Vegas used to be budget-friendly. Now it's more like movie theater concession pricing.
Used to be they expected you to dump money into gambling, even cheap single-play slots, that’s why you could get $7 buffets and $70 rooms. It’s become like everything else seeking to extract every last $ from visitors. Expensive rooms, expensive food, and even the 25¢ slots want you to dump several in for a single play.
I went to Vegas several times as a kid and was always surprised at how “cheap” stuff was because the gambling paid for a lot, but it’s insane now.
What happens in Vegas won’t stay in Vegas. The Trump-tariff-recession will effect every city and person in this country.