You're not free to enforce your religion on others as a public servant.
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Supreme Court: We're public servants and we're free to enforce our religion on others.
Yes you are! The Fuhrer has decreed it.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/28/trump-federal-employees-preach-faith-work-00480696
Enter Trump
Now it is!
You work for the government, you are acting as the government, paid for by taxes from your constituents.
You do not get to decide which laws to follow. Fuck off Kim.
She has no reason to speak of morals when you look at how poorly she practices what she screeches.
I genuinely do not understand how this was ever a case. You are an employee at an office that provides a service. You are a representative of that organization. And, as a civil service employee, I would expect you are obligated by the laws of that county or state to facilitate the services offered.
Davis, as the Rowan County Clerk in 2015, was the sole authority tasked with issuing marriage licenses on behalf of the government under state law.
ON BEHALF OF
Regardless if you're in this position or you're the president, you are obligated by the state or federal constitution to operate as a representative of that jurisdiction's laws.
If she took on this job while knowing it would conflict with her religious views, or the laws changed in a matter that conflicted with her views, she should have notified the county and she should have been denied or removed from that position. Although, I'm sure that raises a different case in denying someone employment based on their religion.
I once asked my mother if it would be ok for a Muslim or Jewish deli employee to refuse to sell her pork. She said they shouldn't be in that job if it conflicted with their religious beliefs. I tried to tie that to this and she sort of shut down rather than argue against it or accept it.
We don't have a relationship anymore. She voted for the shithead every time.
The deli owner can actually deny service to however they want since it's a private business. They don't have to serve anyone, but it does look fucking bad if/when they discrininate, but technically they can.
Here, that government employee HAS the obligation to follow the law and act regardless of her own beliefs. Maybe she should instead run a deli...
Your example is very good, in fact, it prouves your mother wrong in 2 different ways.
If they're going to open the door to any government employee being able to refuse to do their job as directed on religious grounds, this country is going to grind to a halt.
Just kidding, we all know that with the current court and administration, this will only allow people with the "right" religion to refuse.
An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect. Conservatism in a nutshell.
Interracial marriage is on the table too with these fascists.
Not just interracial marriage, they don’t want people to be able to become citizens through marriage.
Or birth.
What a horrible, terrible, evil piece of shit of a person. A lot of people serve other people they don't like every day, it's called having a fucking job, no need to make a federal fucking case out of it you stupid selfish childish pious asshole.
Could we just get government out of the marriage game? It seems to be the source of all the problems. They simply shouldn't care.
Even if we don't this is such a simple concept: Marriage is a contract. The requirements for a contract is consenting adults. How can they make gender determine who can sign a contract? That would be unreasonable.
I think you're second point is more important. The religious part of marriage is actually meaningless in the eyes of the law even today, you still need to apply for a marriage certificate with the government.
I think we just need to extend that to just be a cohabitation/shared asset contract for any two+ people. It makes a lot of legal sense to have a defined "family unit" for medical/legal/financial reasons, but it shouldn't overlap with religious concepts.
Religion is a monstrous evil.
But Jesus said gays bad!
He didn't say anything about love!
Oh, wait...
Can this bitch just fucking die already? I'm tired of seeing her face in the news every couple years
Yooooo.... This bitch is still doing the same, heinous shit? A decade later? Why don't these pieces of shit just get fucking lives or hobbies or something? They're like goddamned ghouls, hanging around and smelling of shit. Like. Fuck. GO AWAY.
What a hateful piece of shit.
Of course they are. And of course that stupid bitch Kim Davis is involved.
Also: how could Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do this to us?
Also: really glad protest voters sat this one out, I can't begin to imagine how much worse this would be under Kamala /s
Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!
Also, what's going on with the Epstein Files? Ya know, while we're on the subject of "Dead Cat Theory"
Who is the injured party here? She clearly refused to do her job.
You don't understand, she was forced to undergo social contact with... shudder GAYS!
"Davis said she's been "called Hitler, I’ve been called [a] hypocrite, I’ve been called a homophobe."
"I’ve been called things and names that I didn’t even say when I was in the world. Those names don’t hurt me," Davis said. "What probably hurt me the worst is when someone tells me that my God does not love me or that my God is not happy with me, that I am a hypocrite of a Christian.""
Lmao, so you don't mind being called Hitler, but being called a fake Christian - now that's insulting! Tells you everything you need to know
Can we get someone who believes in Jakub elected as county clerk somewhere in the US South? Then they can deny marriage licenses to all the white people for being inhuman.
Another 3 to 6 decision then. It's getting kind of repetitive.
So could she have refused to serve a black person or an Asian person based on her personal religious views that she doesn't like black or Asian people?
But her divorces and multiple marriages are fine.
Petition the court to allow us to stone her to death because the Bible says so.
Fuck. Not this asshole again. She should have faded into obscurity and poverty by now.
Can we just take a minute to appreciate how much forehead she has? She could star in the next Coneheads movie!
This is how it goes people, either everyone gets rights or no one gets rights.
They come for the Trans people first, how long until the come for you.
This would then apply to all religions, correct?
She is so messed up. Religious marriage is separate from state licensing of relationships. Religion can discriminate away, but the state serves all its people.
She can't argue she was acting on behalf of the state, and literally says it was based on her personal beliefs how can she then argue she has no personal liability?
I think that firing her would have been the better answer though, if she won't do the job then fire her and hire someone without a conflict.
And this Ladys and Gentlr-people is, why LGB without the T is simply shooting in your own foot. First they go for trans people, but republicans will not stop there. They want to see all of the LGBTQ community dead or at least completely stripped of their rights and hiding at home. Just because you fought with the Republicans to make the life for trans people hell that doesn't mean, that you aren't next.