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[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

I think it's important to point out that the percentages are not necessarily that meaningful. If more people are using steam deck and ditch their windows PCs for it, it's not an OS choice. It's a choice to move to consoles. Additionally, steam deck also competes with traditional console brands (PS, Xbox, switch) and might take some market share there as well, so that even if no one ditched their windows PCs, the total number of users using goes up and hence, the percentage.

I haven't had a steam deck in my hands, but I guess that it doesn't need the user to understand the underlying system at all. It can be used by the same unskilled people who use android or iPhone. So, one core requirement I think people need to have to install any other os is not met or even trained, which is actual knowledge about computers.

The reports about "increase in market share of Linux user's" is from my point of view, which is "I think it would be great if people would ditch windows and office" just a market bit. Useful but ultimately little meaningful.

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Fuck windows, and copilot, and recall, and most especially OneDrive, and start menu ads, and unnecessary upgrades and ... And ... I gotta say I'm so much happier on Ubuntu, took me a little googling on some stuff and proton is still finicky sometimes, but man o man is it nice to have an OS which does what I tell it to.

[–] wipe3257@programming.dev 3 points 6 hours ago

Glad to have made the jump! not even dual booting

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't really help that the AAA scene has gone straight in the shitter, while the quality games are all coming out of the Indie scene.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago

What Valve is doing is making it easier for indie Devs to better support Linux. They don't have the funds for separate Linux builds. But with proton, it's a pleasure to make it work. So... It's great that quality games are coming out of Indie studios and they can be played on linux. Fuck the AAA

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If the survey hit for me 1 week from now I'd be on Linux, I'm literally setting my system up properly next Saturday

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You can dual boot Linux to try it out.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That comes with its own risks because Windows has been known to destroy dual boot setups when doing updates. Not always, but it can happen and it's burnt people.

Dual booting also makes it harder when you decide to get rid of windows fully, because you might yourself accidentally screw your bootloader as part of removing windows.

The option I would personally recommend if you are unsure is to disconnect your windows hard drive, keep it safe, and install Linux on a separate drive. Then you can always drive swap back if you need and you know everything is safe.

You can even put the windows drive back in after installing Linux, and then just use your BIOS boot drive selector to switch where you are booting from. Each drive has it's own boot record in that case, so there's less risk of any accidents.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Disconnecting is good advice. What worked for me after windowa scrubbed the EFI boot was installing Linux and assigning its own EFI partition, most distros probe foreign OS so your separate Linux partition gets a chainloader entry to the windows EFI boot. You set BIOS to use Linux boot, Windows gets a handoff if you choose it in the Grub Menu and doesn't know about the other EFI partition. Kept my dual install save.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

My main gaming rig is my last system not running Linux right now, I've been migrating my stuff over on my other systems for a couple months now (I keep getting distracted lol)

But not that I've got alts for the software I normally use on my main rig it's finally time, 2 months ahead of schedule.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Are we going to make a big deal out of every 0.3% shift in steams stats towards Linux?

Wake me up when we're dealing in whole percentages.... That's when I'll be excited about it, until then this could just be a sampling bias. A rounding error.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Steam OS handhelds are pretty much the entirety of the growth.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 hours ago

The market share of Steam Decks has been declining among Steam Linux users for at least over a year. Steam Deck users were 42% of Steam Linux users in April '24, and this year's July it's only 28%.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Linux went from 2.59% to 2.89%, that's a 11.6% increase in the number of Linux users.

If it shifted .3% it would have went from 2.59% to 2.5977%.

The article is confusing 'percentage points' with 'percentage'

Another way of looking at it is that the Steam Linux user population went from ~3,418,000 users to ~3,814,000 users. So there are nearly 400,000 new Linux gamers.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

0.3% overall. There might be half a million new Linux gamers on steam, but there's still hundreds of millions of PC gamers using Windows.

You can arrange the numbers how you want, the fact is that this is still a pretty small shift in the overall PC gamer landscape. I promise you, that's how any larger developer sees it. Their pool of PC gamers shifted by a fraction of a percent. A good chunk of those that they "lost" as potential customers, probably wouldn't have bought their games in the first place.

The demographic overlap for large studios of people who are intentionally using Linux for gaming, and people that are interested in their game, doesn't overlap much, if at all, I bet. Until we get their key demographic switching over in large enough quantities to threaten their profits, the majority of the industry won't budge from their windows centric views.

Look. I don't hate Linux. Quite the opposite in fact. I'm rooting for these stats to move in and significant amount. I feel that's an inevitable shift that will happen and until we do, we'll keep getting these articles, describing a fraction of a percent move in the overall numbers as if it's a huge culture shift for how people are playing games.

If you haven't seen it, maybe you should watch field of dreams, becasuse the main tag line of the movie "if you build it, they will come" definitely applies here. The larger PC gaming community, there is a statistically significant number of indie devs and indie studios that support Linux as a platform, even if it's just the steam deck they're building for.... Those studios just are not the biggest players in terms of revenue/sales... But they're the ones building "it". This is slowly but surely fueling the fires that will eventually burn down Microsoft's dominance in the gaming space. It's been a war that's been waged for literal decades, since before steam was a thing.

There will come a day when we will hit critical mass and the large studios will be forced to either accept that their user base is shrinking because they don't support Linux. That day is not today. We will need to see much more movement than a few percent difference before that happens. This isn't even a few percent. This is a fraction of a percent of the total.

So forgive me if I'm not excited by any of this. It's movement in the right direction, but it's utterly meaningless to the companies that could actually shift the industry to Linux on a large scale.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Linux market share has been growing at increasing speed. Last year, Steam Linux market share increased less than 20%, while it has already gone up by 40% this year. There is still 5 months left in this year.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

I'm not trying to convince you to cheer for this, I'm just correcting a common math mistake.

0.3% overall.

.3 percentage points. 11.6% increase

Those are two different things

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 18 points 20 hours ago

I'm currently configuring my new linux dev/gaming machine. Thanks for giving me the push I needed, Microsoft!

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck microsoft. Fuck the Idea that everything needs to make a profit. Essential stuff should be publicly owned.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (9 children)

I want to nationalize seashores. It's unfair rich people privatized entire coastline.

Same with natural resources. WTF are they owned by corpos? Anything mined and drilled should be owned by all citizens

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Windows still is way farther ahead

[–] Coil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not really. Proton has done wonders for Linux gaming. The only games that really don't run have drm configured to block Linux specifically.

[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago

I think OP is referring to the percentage, not functionality. Windows, especially the office suites / GUIs are micht more refined. Someone somewhere pointed out at some point in time that backend development is often open source because developers are dedicated to the cause and the function. Designers, on the other hand, not so much (maybe they need payment because their main job pays less... I don't know.

In the end, the user uses the front-end, not the backend. And unless money flows into front-end development, for example, by a growing market of companies who want to switch away from office 365 for functional and financial reasons, we won't see front-ends which are attractive enough for people to switch to Linux for daily/ work related tasks.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

People don't have a choice. Microsoft made W11 incompatible with a lot of hardware and Microsoft said, "lol, buy new hardware"

Giving nary a single fuck about whats best for their users.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's good to see people making a switch to Linux. But the real tell will be in finding out how many of those people actually stick long term.

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