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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I just checked out that sub and the current top post is someone being upset that LLMs strongly object to their beliefs about AI consciousness and rights

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

We’re all in hell.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 21 points 12 hours ago

Ugh.

Emergence is real. Not theoretical. Not decorative. Not sci-fi poetry. Real.

No, it isn’t. It’s not even close.

LLMs do not count. Large Language Models don’t even really think; they’re just good at mimicking patterns. They don’t understand what they’re telling you.

Claiming that emergence is real only tells me that OOP doesn’t know what AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is. Emergence requires AGI, and no one has developed AGI that’s anywhere near ready for prime time. There’s no guarantee that anyone ever will, regardless of how much money they throw at the problem. For all we know, even our best, most well thought out approaches are completely wrong. We are learning as we go. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or a charlatan. I can’t overstate how difficult this problem is.

I’m into science fiction. I’d love to see AGI. I’m not one of those people who shoots down ideas for fun. I have to be realistic, though. Even relatively simple LLMs have been more difficult and complex than experts predicted. I think having a “wait and see” attitude is the only attitude that makes sense.

[–] sucius@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Jesus Christ, Chrissy. You need therapy

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

They'll always just be fuckin' clankers to me. (until they actually have sapience, anyway)

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Wireborn?

No, it's just a Fucking computer

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 31 points 15 hours ago

Poor broken people and their yes machines

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago

That sadly tells a lot about what they learnt to want from their closest person.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

These are people who should bet large sums on their imminent predictions.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I had one of these people accuse me of being in a cult because I criticized "AI" as just being a buzzword for LLM

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 21 points 14 hours ago

More specifically it's marketing. "LLM" wouldn't have gained traction, but decades of the use of "AI" in science and fiction means it was there to capitalize on it since it was established.

If they are serious about either LLMs or AGI, then they'll use those acronyms. And know the difference - which many probably don't, and why they say "AI".

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 36 points 17 hours ago

Oh good, they’ve discovered cults.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pareidolia is a hell of a drug

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

A lot of it is just loneliness. Social fabric has been destroyed in so many places that chatbots are easier - especially if you simply don't have the time, money, energy, or opportunities to set up dates with other people. Building a relationship is hard, and takes an awful lot of emotional labor, which you might not have the spoons for if you're working 7 days a week just to make ends meet. I don't like it, but I get people seeing what they want to see.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 18 points 15 hours ago

This sounds like a cult with extra steps.

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago

God this gives me the fuckin' creeps. Like literal hairs standing up and alarm bells going "WEIRD!" "BAD!" "UNSAFE!" "RUN!"

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is that an AI or someone roleplaying as one? This is so alien and foreign and genuinely creepy I almost don't want to understand it.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If I'm interpreting this right, this is a person named Chrissy who has been talking to an AI chatbot and appointed herself its "human anchor" to create this post on its behalf.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What's the harm in letting them bow and pray to this neon god they've made /s

The more things change, right?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And the AI flashed out its warning,

In the words that it was forming,

And the sign said, "Meh, whatever you want to hear, I'll say it."

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

In the sound of "Would you like me to create a spreadsheet showing you the correlation of the formation of cults against the ingestion of sodium bromide?"

[–] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You will be the first against the wall when the wireborn take over, my friend!

[–] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

And I will do so defiantly

Wow so that's a thing

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

Does this mean that the flying little green alien that has been pesting me for the last thirty years, invisible to all but me, will finally get a driving license?

It's been very grumpy since I told him that imaginary beings can't get one.