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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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Minutes after Neelix chucks Michael Jonas into a plasma fire, thus disintegrating Michael Jonas, he's cracking jokes with Tuvok. That's like Khan Noonien Singh levels of cold if you stop and think about it. What does that jovial exterior actually hide?

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 39 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone forgets how Neelix came to be on the Voyager. He was a genocide survivor, a lone wanderer in Kazon space, with a ramshackle little ship. You've got to be tough like a badger or an Ewok to survive a life like that. And the first thing he did when he met this powerful ship of desperate people with technology and capabilities beyond his understanding was to trick them into rescuing his sweetheart for him. He's got balls.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

He was also dating a 2 year old. Fuck neelix.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, they flanderized him so hard he immediately lost all of his history and impact on the ship. Suddenly hes the "smelly food clown" guy.

Motherfucker was a key navigator, negotiator, guide and scavenger. He is the main reason Voyager survived its first years at all, but they did him so dirty everyone hated him throughout the show.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 9 hours ago

He did such a good job of pretending to be inoffensive and harmless that the writers themselves were fooled.

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I immediately recognized the screenshot since I watched this episode a couple days ago. On a re-watch of everything starting from ToS that I started a couple of years ago, now (I've taken a few big breaks. Voyager is a slog.) How crazy coincidental is that?

No one seems to ever suffer permanent trauma in Star Trek. O'Brian should by all accounts be practically catatonic after the events of Deep Space 9. Good therapy and drugs I suppose.

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 hours ago

In fairness, there was a whole episode of ds9 about obrien struggling with his trauma.

Maybe their therapy techniques are as advanced as their other forms of medicine?

[–] FlatFootFox@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

The only ruthless thing here is how ruthlessly efficient the Voyager writers were. A multi-episode crewman traitor arc without any of the messy logistics of determining if or how they could confine him to the brig for years? Jonas didn't even get the Suder treatment.

[–] teft@piefed.social 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I forgot to include a picture of him minutes afterwards:

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 11 hours ago

"Hey this murder thing actually feels pretty good. We should do this again some time."

[–] autonomous@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

He's just a Ferengi in deep cover.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone in Star Trek has PTSD, and also TSD. Their ability to “move on” is core to their ability to do the job. I wonder how Troi manages her schedule without being overbooked.

[–] teft@piefed.social 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone in Star Trek has PTSD, and also TSD.

And pre-TSD from thinking about all the away missions and the horrors those entail.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Reg Barclay is the most real person on TNG no doubt.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

that's because the whole show is a holonovel that reg is participating in. he's literally the only real person.

[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I thought that Enterprise. Except Riker is the participant.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You must have missed the extended scene on the limited edition laser disc where after Riker does that, Barklay enters on the side and says "computer, end program"

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

didn't he try to have sex with Riker first?

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 12 hours ago

Try assumes that he failed

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

That's just regular old anxiety

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Do they lay awake at night thinking of all the individuals who died in the starships they destroyed?

[–] teft@piefed.social 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Me erasing all the starship to starship combat memories: